Man Utd Thread:

[brokencrossbar1]

Lads no harm but you have to take teh blinkers off about teh Glazers.  In the 10 years they have been there they have invested over £630m in the players.  Now of course people will throw out net spend etc but that is a serious level of investment.  Money has been spent of players that were supposed to be top class.  It is significantly more that Barcelona have spent in the same time for instance.  It is far too easy to blame the owners but there has been a huge amount of money wasted so you can't blame them if they have concerns about investing big money.

[seafoid]

Lads no harm but you have to take teh blinkers off about teh Glazers.  In the 10 years they have been there they have invested over £630m in the players.  Now of course people will throw out net spend etc but that is a serious level of investment.  Money has been spent of players that were supposed to be top class.  It is significantly more that Barcelona have spent in the same time for instance.  It is far too easy to blame the owners but there has been a huge amount of money wasted so you can't blame them if they have concerns about investing big money.

Man City spent 1 billion in 3 years
The Glazers took 700m OUT of Man Utd in 10 years. 
Their management has been chaotic since Fergie left


http://www.theguardian.com/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2014/jan/25/manchester-united-glazers-david-conn

Ferguson was always the Glazers' key figure at United, the manager who fired the drinkers' club of the 1980s into the football cash cow for the Premier League era. Now his leaving has illuminated more clearly how United were in fact run down while servicing the Glazers' debt mountain – at a cost of £680m so far – rather than signing "some of the best players in the world".


http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/sep/01/manchester-united-transfer-spree-old-trafford-upheaval

Manchester United's shock, high-priced loan grab of Colombian striker Radamel Falcao from his odd year out at tax-lite, thinly supported Monaco planted the transfer deadline day story where the focus has been all summer: on the tumultuous leavings and frantic arrivals at Old Trafford.
It is acknowledged now that clubs doing huge deals as late as United have this year are not as stable or organised as their rivals – notably Chelsea and Manchester City – who have recruited players early enough to show them round, at least, before the season starts. Yet this feverish United activity, more than £120m spent including the staggering £60m for Angel di Maria's left-midfield thrust and £6m for a season for Falcao, goes way beyond that truth about thinness of planning. This is genuine, historic upheaval

[From the Bunker]

Man Utd the business makes serious money. The Glazers take a serious amount of money out of the Club each year, use other money to finance the debt of the club and the rest is to run the club. When you take the first two out of kitty there is a serious hole in the disposable income of the club. The catch 22 for Man Utd fans is that they cannot disown or not support their club. So the Glazers have the fans held to ransom. The Glazers make so much money from Man Utd they will never sell unless they get an unbelievable offer. The Club is a business and is run like one anymore. Which is fair enough, if it was not for the benefit of a couple of owners.

The FC united of Manchester is the only way to go for the local supporter, if they are really passionate about their identity and don't want to be screwed. Wimbledon did this when their club was stolen from them. It's been a long journey for them but they are back to a level of respectability for the club they lost. This is great in theory but it takes a serious come down for a supporter. Look at Rnagers the last couple of years and the pain of supporters used to the big time dealing with looking at average players playing for their club in part-time leagues.

[Milltown Row2]

Out at a funeral yesterday, and the misery continued!! No getting away with that form...

Utd be lucky to finish in top six nevermind top four.

My brother who's a mad Utd fan said to me before the game, Bournemouth are 11/5 ... Great year for minnows getting good results

[StGallsGAA]

What's most disappointing is that with a 20 goals a season striker United could be sitting top by a margin.  This philosophy BS is obviously under-pinned by the need for a world class striker at the front of a miserly defence.   Woodward is as much, if not more, to blame than LVG in that regard. 

[rodney trotter]

Woodward can only make the deals for the players Van Gaal wants.. sure he wanted Neymar and Thomas Muller. like they were going to join United.

Plenty of good players around Europe without having to go for unrealistic ones. Lacazzete of Lyon, among others.

[Maroon Manc]

I've backed him so far but yesterday was appalling. What concerns me most is how open at the back we've become in the last 2 games and the amount of injuries we're picking up. He seems to have lost faith in what he was doing and we're conceding chances at the back at an alarming rate.

Then there's and the madness of letting Wilson go out on loan whilst bringing Powell on in the last 2 games. The squad was left too thin at the beginning of the season and we're paying for it as we've an injury crisis.

He's getting a bit of breathing space from the board given Chelsea's crap season and Liverpool's poor form but there's plenty of fans who want rid of him already.

[Gaafan2]

I've also backed him up until now but no longer can, yesterday's result was embarrassing. At least if he admitted the recent performances are not good enough for a man united team, but he hasn't, he continues to say the opposite. I firmly believe we've made little or no progress from the moyes era and for that reason, he isn't up to the job and has to go. The only reason we're still in the top four is the fact Chelsea Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham recently have been very poor.

[ONeill]

How the fcuk Fergie won that last title is still one of the great sporting mysteries.

[seafoid]

How the fcuk Fergie won that last title is still one of the great sporting mysteries.

The team still had a psychological advantage over Other teams who expected them to Win tight matches, like Kerry in 1986. When Moyes took over it faded. Fergie time Is no more.

[Gaffer]

Does Fergie still go to the games like he did when Moynes was the gaffer?

[stew]

How the fcuk Fergie won that last title is still one of the great sporting mysteries.

He was a genius, that's how Shane. Boys on here, who have forgotten more than your average so so Dan on here wanted rid of him in 04/05. Madness in the extreme, the man is the best there ever was.

[seafoid]

If it Is any confort, AC Milan are lost as well.

[upthehoops]

If it Is any confort, AC Milan are lost as well.

Lost? Imagine if you hadnt won anything significant for quarter of a century ( that's lost)but then you scrape a draw against WBA. You celebrate wildly. That's embarrassing or as they say in Queens County, hilarious.

[Cunny Funt]

How the fcuk Fergie won that last title is still one of the great sporting mysteries.

Fergies 2nd last season United only lost the league on goal difference.