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« Reply #49155 on: October 05, 2020, 10:50:17 PM »
Pogba gets a hammering in the press for his attitude, being a “cancer” inside Utd etc but all reports or interviews from players, insiders etc always state that he’s a positive influence in the dressing room. His agent and family are definitely a pain in the arse in the media. I think there’s definitely an undercurrent of unconscious racism in how the British press treat Pogba (and Sterling).

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« Reply #49156 on: October 05, 2020, 11:12:12 PM »
Best of luck to Chris Smalling, a decent servant over the years. Sometimes threatened to be a very good player   :)

I must have went for a piss and missed that.

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« Reply #49157 on: October 05, 2020, 11:18:22 PM »
Best of luck to Chris Smalling, a decent servant over the years. Sometimes threatened to be a very good player   :)

Decent pro a good move for him.  Few if any of Ole targets delivered. Pure PR to not confirm the Cavani deal until the last hour of the deadline.

Everton, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea all had much better transfer windows leaving Uniteds task to finish top 4 more difficult.

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« Reply #49158 on: October 05, 2020, 11:35:17 PM »
Best of luck to Chris Smalling, a decent servant over the years. Sometimes threatened to be a very good player   :)

Decent pro a good move for him.  Few if any of Ole targets delivered. Pure PR to not confirm the Cavani deal until the last hour of the deadline.

Everton, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea all had much better transfer windows leaving Uniteds task to finish top 4 more difficult.

Despite the £90million or whatever bids, did the club ever really have any intention of spending that sort of money on Sancho or anyone else this window?

As a few talking heads have pointed out recently, serious transfer discussions rarely involve rejected bids these days. Clubs employ negotiators who chat behind the scenes and don't waste time offering money unless there's a very strong chance of acceptance.

United seems to have had a summer of rejection - can their transfer negotiators really have been that inept, or was it all just spin to keep supporters onside for as long as possible?

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« Reply #49159 on: October 06, 2020, 06:23:47 AM »
Best of luck to Chris Smalling, a decent servant over the years. Sometimes threatened to be a very good player   :)

I must have went for a piss and missed that.

Ur hardly a reliable barometer, with ur "he's shite" mantra  :)

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« Reply #49160 on: October 06, 2020, 08:38:49 AM »
There doesnt seem to have been any serious attempt to sign a CB. So that obv means that either Ole is happy with what he has currently and told to make it work, or that the club are happy with what is there and he was told no.

The Cavanni one reminds me a bit of the Zlatan deal, bit of a gamble but if it pays off every one looks so clever pretty much like the Zlatan one and if it doesn't they hold their hands up and say he was on a free.

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« Reply #49161 on: October 06, 2020, 09:34:18 AM »
Best of luck to Chris Smalling, a decent servant over the years. Sometimes threatened to be a very good player   :)

I must have went for a piss and missed that.

Ur hardly a reliable barometer, with ur "he's shite" mantra  :)

I didn’t say “he’s shite”, did I? ;)

(Except when I just said it above).

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« Reply #49162 on: October 06, 2020, 09:38:17 AM »
Another disappointing summer, thats the 3rd summer transfer window in a row where Woodward hasn't delivered. I can remember leading up to summer 2018 and all the reports were United were going to spend £200m and we ended up with Fred and Dalot.

On the face of it signing Van Der Beek, Cavani & Telles for £50m is excellent business and if United had managed to Dembele in on loan I'd have been happy enough with it in the circumstances, can understand too leaving Telles to the last minute as they've got him on the cheap.

Dortmund wanted too much money for Sancho and earlier on in the summer I thought just pay it but United can't keep paying over the odds for every player so there's logic too not paying what they wanted but not having replacement lined up on loan earlier isn't good enough.

United were always up against it at the start of the season given the lack of pre season and ideally needed signings early but prepared to cut them some slack given who Ole's main target and how that dictated anyone else United were in for. 

Arsenal & Spurs have spent a lot more than I expected, both clubs have bigger financial problems than United but have done well this summer and both will fancy their chances of finishing above United.

Sunday was not good enough but United aren't that bad, every single player looks miles off the pace; Its not just a few of them its the lot of them; I've no idea whether Ole is good enough but after last season he deserves a chance to prove himself but can see why he's under huge pressure given Poch is available. Its going to be a huge month when they get back from international duty.





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« Reply #49163 on: October 06, 2020, 10:36:19 AM »
Another disappointing summer, thats the 3rd summer transfer window in a row where Woodward hasn't delivered. I can remember leading up to summer 2018 and all the reports were United were going to spend £200m and we ended up with Fred and Dalot.

On the face of it signing Van Der Beek, Cavani & Telles for £50m is excellent business and if United had managed to Dembele in on loan I'd have been happy enough with it in the circumstances, can understand too leaving Telles to the last minute as they've got him on the cheap.

Dortmund wanted too much money for Sancho and earlier on in the summer I thought just pay it but United can't keep paying over the odds for every player so there's logic too not paying what they wanted but not having replacement lined up on loan earlier isn't good enough.

United were always up against it at the start of the season given the lack of pre season and ideally needed signings early but prepared to cut them some slack given who Ole's main target and how that dictated anyone else United were in for. 

Arsenal & Spurs have spent a lot more than I expected, both clubs have bigger financial problems than United but have done well this summer and both will fancy their chances of finishing above United.

Sunday was not good enough but United aren't that bad, every single player looks miles off the pace; Its not just a few of them its the lot of them; I've no idea whether Ole is good enough but after last season he deserves a chance to prove himself but can see why he's under huge pressure given Poch is available. Its going to be a huge month when they get back from international duty.

Think MU dodged a bullet in not signing Dembele. Should never ever sign an injured or injury-prone player. Remember Falcao and Hargreaves to an extent?
OGS is not good enough, has no track record of success as a manager in top flight football, and his team aren't playing for him. He won nothing last season and got real lucky Leicester fell off the bike in the run-in to pip them to third place. I said it at the time and often since, that fluke win over PSG with one of the worst VAR peno decisions (and that's saying something) was a hugely costly Pyrrhic victory for MU. The entertainment value of seeing Rio making a tit of himself was worth it though!

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« Reply #49164 on: October 06, 2020, 10:43:55 AM »
Another disappointing summer, thats the 3rd summer transfer window in a row where Woodward hasn't delivered. I can remember leading up to summer 2018 and all the reports were United were going to spend £200m and we ended up with Fred and Dalot.

On the face of it signing Van Der Beek, Cavani & Telles for £50m is excellent business and if United had managed to Dembele in on loan I'd have been happy enough with it in the circumstances, can understand too leaving Telles to the last minute as they've got him on the cheap.

Dortmund wanted too much money for Sancho and earlier on in the summer I thought just pay it but United can't keep paying over the odds for every player so there's logic too not paying what they wanted but not having replacement lined up on loan earlier isn't good enough.

United were always up against it at the start of the season given the lack of pre season and ideally needed signings early but prepared to cut them some slack given who Ole's main target and how that dictated anyone else United were in for. 

Arsenal & Spurs have spent a lot more than I expected, both clubs have bigger financial problems than United but have done well this summer and both will fancy their chances of finishing above United.

Sunday was not good enough but United aren't that bad, every single player looks miles off the pace; Its not just a few of them its the lot of them; I've no idea whether Ole is good enough but after last season he deserves a chance to prove himself but can see why he's under huge pressure given Poch is available. Its going to be a huge month when they get back from international duty.

Think MU dodged a bullet in not signing Dembele. Should never ever sign an injured or injury-prone player. Remember Falcao and Hargreaves to an extent?
OGS is not good enough, has no track record of success as a manager in top flight football, and his team aren't playing for him. He won nothing last season and got real lucky Leicester fell off the bike in the run-in to pip them to third place. I said it at the time and often since, that fluke win over PSG with one of the worst VAR peno decisions (and that's saying something) was a hugely costly Pyrrhic victory for MU. The entertainment value of seeing Rio making a tit of himself was worth it though!

signing Dembele on loan was a chance worth taking, United will be back in for Sancho next summer.

The players played for Ole last season, think United obtained more points than anyone else from Feb on conceding only 7 goals in the process. There's mitigating factors currently, lets see where United are by mid November.

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« Reply #49165 on: October 06, 2020, 11:09:53 AM »
It's the perfect storm that Ole would have wanted to avoid. Coming back late players all over the show in terms of their pre-seasons. The players don't look fit or more so they dont look match sharp.

I'm prepared to give Ole time (although I don't think the Poch rumours are going away any time soon) as he has shown enough for me when he had the players at it, excited to see when Bruno gets back to form and has VDB beside him I think that could be a serious partnership. Also to have the presence of Cavanni should help in games when Tony goes missing and ease the pressure on Rashford and Greenwood.

I don't think there is any other way to go with this squad of players and that is attack attack attack.

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« Reply #49166 on: October 06, 2020, 02:46:24 PM »
On Sancho according to some tier 1 journalists, he had agreed personal terms and wanted to join United but the deadline for Dortmund to sell him was a few weeks ago and they wanted an up front payment. United were going to pay installments plus add ons which Dortmund said no to, next transfer window more clubs will be in for Sancho so it's slim if he'll ever becomes a United player now. 

United wanted Dembele on loan ( plan B for not getting Sancho) Barcelona wanted a permanent deal. The lack of strategy by Woodward and Co in this transfer window showed up their incompetence once more.

Good luck to Ole and whoever takes over from him once he's eventually replaced as the shit show at how this club is run will remain for the foreseeable future.

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« Reply #49167 on: October 06, 2020, 03:23:14 PM »
Lineker saying on twitter some big deal was scuppered due to an agent looing 30mill. 30 f**king million. Not confirmed if it was sancho.

Whole other debate but surely these cowboys need regulated

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« Reply #49168 on: October 06, 2020, 03:29:41 PM »
On Sancho according to some tier 1 journalists, he had agreed personal terms and wanted to join United but the deadline for Dortmund to sell him was a few weeks ago and they wanted an up front payment. United were going to pay installments plus add ons which Dortmund said no to, next transfer window more clubs will be in for Sancho so it's slim if he'll ever becomes a United player now. 

United wanted Dembele on loan ( plan B for not getting Sancho) Barcelona wanted a permanent deal. The lack of strategy by Woodward and Co in this transfer window showed up their incompetence once more.

Good luck to Ole and whoever takes over from him once he's eventually replaced as the shit show at how this club is run will remain for the foreseeable future.

They couldn't run a fcuken bath.

Until there is change at board level it is pointless changing manager. It will just be the same old process....

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« Reply #49169 on: October 06, 2020, 03:35:03 PM »
Saw a tweet yesterday where it showed big investment in the first year of Van Gaal's, Mourinho's and Ole's tenure followed by a fall off investment. Might be just a coincidence or that to do with all 3 achieving CL qualification in their first full season. I absolutely do not believe the Glazers and Woodward their toadie share supporters desire for United to return to challenging for and winning the major trophies. It's like people who own a hotel - they'll put back in enough money to keep the place looking decent so the money keeps rolling in.