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« Reply #47490 on: October 09, 2019, 03:34:10 PM »
Man Utd won't get relegated but they could really end up out of the top 6 and Europe again and in the past that was enough to sack Moyes, LVG and Maureen so why would OGS be any different?

OGS was a temporary fix who joined with a run of favourable fixtures to come, the win over PSG in Paris was fortunate but give credit where it's due.

Thereafter the ex united players in the media and supporters jumped on the OGS bus without any form of actual due diligence into what was taking place.

Where Utd are seriously going wrong is in the boardroom.

When everyone was crying for OGS to become manager there needed to be cool, critical thinking at executive level with a good understanding of the product (football) rather than revenue streams and who can sell the most jerseys and raise the profile short term.

James will prove to be a good purchase providing further good purchases are made to support the team.
The wee right back may also be a decent buy but he was bought on a whim and the jury may still be out on him.
Harry Maguire was bough purely because he was an England centre back, but he's functional enough to be the leader of the defensive unit really crying out for someone to take hold if it. Maguire may well be come that player but he doesn't show that for England and Leicester didn't exactly fall apart when he left.

Much for Ole to do but the boardroom are to blame for most of it.

I'd say the 11 league and cup fixtures he's had this season was more favourable. No away wins since that match in Paris, before it United beat Cardiff,Spurs,Newcastle,Leicester,Fulham,Palace,Chelsea,Arsenal all away playing an attacking brand of football. Nowadays two holding midfielders are chosen every game and with each poor result the confidence of the players has become lower and lower.

Defensive options are okay moving forward, Wan Bissaka,Maguire look like good signings, Shaw,Linedlof are decent and Tuanzebe,Williams have the potential to be good long term defenders.   Rojo,Jones and Young need to be offloaded ASAP.

Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

Striker options are Rashford who hasn't played well since that injury v Liverpool in Feb, an injury prone Martial and a teen Greenwood. Very light on options of course but you could have RVP at his peak playing in this current United team and he would struggle to score many goals as few clear cut chances are even created.





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« Reply #47491 on: October 11, 2019, 12:39:26 AM »
Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

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« Reply #47492 on: October 11, 2019, 04:19:32 AM »
Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

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« Reply #47493 on: October 11, 2019, 07:45:50 AM »
Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.

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« Reply #47494 on: October 16, 2019, 07:18:21 PM »
Hmmm I'm sure this thread will be bumped up top on Sunday evening. Pogba and De Gea out. It'll probably end up 0-4 being optimistic about it.
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« Reply #47495 on: October 16, 2019, 07:31:11 PM »
Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.
Ferguson signed Jones for what was big money at the time, and he was on big wages from the get go. The wages are always going to be massive if players are signed for 20,30,40 mil

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« Reply #47496 on: October 16, 2019, 08:39:32 PM »
Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.
Ferguson signed Jones for what was big money at the time, and he was on big wages from the get go. The wages are always going to be massive if players are signed for 20,30,40 mil

Just not true...

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« Reply #47497 on: October 16, 2019, 09:29:48 PM »
Midfield is championship level along with Pogba who doesn't want to be there. Biggest mistake was selling Herrera who was providing leadership in the middle of the park and not replacing him. Fred signed for 50 million has become the latest Brazillian flop alongsie Anderson and Kleberson.

It's worse than that. At least if they'd sold him they could've gotten a bit of money out of it. They let his contract run down and he walked away for nothing. But Woodward et al. still made sure to find the time and money to offer contact extensions to Young, Smalling and Jones in the last 12 months. Nothing the club has done in the last five years makes any footballing sense. There is no vision for the future beyond sourcing the next noodle or mattress partner. It's a broken football club.

This is the only squad that really matters to those that run the show:
www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

Also I would love to see a list of united players wages, it seems every player is on silly wages including young players like Rashford and poor players like Phil Jones something that did not happen under Ferguson era, it seems to be a really bad run club on the football side of things that is for sure.
Ferguson signed Jones for what was big money at the time, and he was on big wages from the get go. The wages are always going to be massive if players are signed for 20,30,40 mil

Just not true...

Which part?

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Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Reply #47498 on: October 16, 2019, 09:35:41 PM »
Which part would ya think?

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« Reply #47499 on: October 16, 2019, 09:43:38 PM »
Which part would ya think?

No idea. You've highlighted both so you're suggesting both are false.

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« Reply #47500 on: October 16, 2019, 11:13:09 PM »
I didnt, I highlighted the untrue one, the other one is a matter of opinion.

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« Reply #47501 on: October 16, 2019, 11:42:48 PM »
Jones was signed for big money. 16.5 million up front, with talk that went past 20 million with add-ons. That was very big money for a teenage defender in 2011. Probably only 5 or 6 clubs in the world paying those sorts of fees around then.

It seems his wages were relatively modest originally, though. It's only in recent years that the club have been doling out stupid money.

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« Reply #47502 on: October 17, 2019, 09:09:18 AM »
So whats the likely line up for Sunday then.

DeGea out, Pogba out and AWB a doubt, Martial not match fit.

Romero
Young
Maguire
Lindelof
Dalot
McTominay
Matic
Pereira
James
Rashford
Linegard

Not much left after this really?

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« Reply #47503 on: October 17, 2019, 10:12:12 AM »
So whats the likely line up for Sunday then.

DeGea out, Pogba out and AWB a doubt, Martial not match fit.

Romero
Young
Maguire
Lindelof
Dalot
McTominay
Matic
Pereira
James
Rashford
Linegard

Not much left after this really?

That side gets slaughtered by Liverpool. Solskjear will be under immense pressure come Monday morning if so.

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« Reply #47504 on: October 17, 2019, 10:27:13 AM »
So whats the likely line up for Sunday then.

DeGea out, Pogba out and AWB a doubt, Martial not match fit.

Romero
Young
Maguire
Lindelof
Dalot
McTominay
Matic
Pereira
James
Rashford
Linegard

Not much left after this really?

That side gets slaughtered by Liverpool. Solskjear will be under immense pressure come Monday morning if so.

Why is OGS going to be under pressure? He can't sign players between now and the weekend. Utd have very bad players so they're going to have really bad performances. OGS can do absolutely nothing about it.