Man Utd Thread:

[rodney trotter]

Second in the league for now. Arsenal and City play much better football then United, if Arsenal got more consisteny they could win the league.

It also says it all when Leicester are top, wouldn't be the case in Spain, Germany or Italy.

[ashman]

Van Gaal, just go. That was brutal, again.

Second in the league?

They are awful to watch but they tend to get results

Yep , after spending 300 million spons it is an amazing feat to grind out a win at Watford .

[Milltown Row2]

Second in the league for now. Arsenal and City play much better football then United, if Arsenal got more consisteny they could win the league.

It also says it all when Leicester are top, wouldn't be the case in Spain, Germany or Italy.

Shows you how crap the other teams are below the top four.... Poor league, as the results in Europe have shown in last few years

[laoislad]

Van Gaal, just go. That was brutal, again.

Second in the league?

They are awful to watch but they tend to get results

Yep , after spending 300 million spons it is an amazing feat to grind out a win at Watford .

Its all about the net spend sure....

[rodney trotter]

Second in the league for now. Arsenal and City play much better football then United, if Arsenal got more consisteny they could win the league.

It also says it all when Leicester are top, wouldn't be the case in Spain, Germany or Italy.

Shows you how crap the other teams are below the top four.... Poor league, as the results in Europe have shown in last few years

The other teams are scoring though. United have scored the least goals in the top 4  with 19 goals conceded 9. The next team with the same number of goals scored is in 8th place, Southampton. Liverpool in 9th place have 17 scored

Grinding out wins with all the money spent.

[Milltown Row2]

Second in the league for now. Arsenal and City play much better football then United, if Arsenal got more consisteny they could win the league.

It also says it all when Leicester are top, wouldn't be the case in Spain, Germany or Italy.

Shows you how crap the other teams are below the top four.... Poor league, as the results in Europe have shown in last few years

The other teams are scoring though. United have scored the least goals in the top 4  with 19 goals conceded 9. The next team with the same number of goals scored is in 8th place, Southampton. Liverpool in 9th place have 17 scored

Grinding out wins with all the money spent.

So you'd rather be mid table and scoring goals (obviously letting in a lot also) than second , hmmm... Ok that sounds right, aim high but consistently (25+years) fall flat on your face....

Utd are playing shite and still above City and Arsenal ( the only real contenders) Utd won't win the league playing this way ... Never will ... Unfortunately like all good things they come to end... May take another stroke of luck to get anywhere near their heights of the past..

Money spent is money spent, if you spend a lot of money but able to afford it, what odds, none of these teams are going to be bankrupt any day soon

[screenexile]

A big brand but not a big football club anymore!

[AZOffaly]

A big brand but not a big football club anymore!

Manchester United are not a big football club? Wow. Keep some of that stuff you're smoking for Christmas

[screenexile]

A big brand but not a big football club anymore!

Manchester United are not a big football club? Wow. Keep some of that stuff you're smoking for Christmas

Sorry I should have used the quotation marks Dunphy went over this chat last night!!

[NAG1]

A big brand but not a big football club anymore!

Manchester United are not a big football club? Wow. Keep some of that stuff you're smoking for Christmas

Sorry I should have used the quotation marks Dunphy went over this chat last night!!

well that was your first mistake SE

Poor again last night again with the tempo being extremely slow after the first 10/15mins. The team started with a real sense of purpose but as the game wore on and they didnt get the break through it became ponderous and slow which as we know doesnt get any sort of pressure built up.

Worrying again in the CM area, without Carrick there seemed to be no drive forward Mo and Basti seem to sit too deep and even then Mo got bypassed a few times. In games like this when the team were so on top possession wise, I dont understand why Basti doesnt play further forward and dictate the game from the opposition half, he has a great eye for a pass and through ball and in these games, it only needs one to walk away with the points.

[Maroon Manc]

A big brand but not a big football club anymore!

Manchester United are not a big football club? Wow. Keep some of that stuff you're smoking for Christmas

Sorry I should have used the quotation marks Dunphy went over this chat last night!!

well that was your first mistake SE

Poor again last night again with the tempo being extremely slow after the first 10/15mins. The team started with a real sense of purpose but as the game wore on and they didnt get the break through it became ponderous and slow which as we know doesnt get any sort of pressure built up.

Worrying again in the CM area, without Carrick there seemed to be no drive forward Mo and Basti seem to sit too deep and even then Mo got bypassed a few times. In games like this when the team were so on top possession wise, I dont understand why Basti doesnt play further forward and dictate the game from the opposition half, he has a great eye for a pass and through ball and in these games, it only needs one to walk away with the points.

Easy to blame the 2 in the middle, once again Rooney's mates on BT blame everyone bar him; Supposed to be our captain but when we crying out for a leader on the pitch in the last hour he went missing. He was supposed to be playing as no 10 until the last 15 minutes when he was switched but he offered nothing. I'm getting very tired of saying it but he is our biggest problem, there's no quality in his game any more. Herrera is a huge loss and all our best performances coincide with him playing.

When we're playing against opposition who are happy to sit back we need at least one attacking fullback. Young should have started at fullback or Blind should have played left back, he has far more quality on the ball then Rojo.

Depay, Martial & Lingard have probably about 40 United appearances between them, too much is expected of such inexperienced players and are bound to be inconsistent.

[nrico2006]

There are lots of teams about now (and in the past) that score lots of goals.  It is not something that is particularly hard to achieve if a bit of money has been spent, which has been in United's case.  LVG has actually done the hard bit and made his team defensively strong.  But looking back at it from a simplistic perspective, United were terrible on the goal front last year (worst goals total in 20 odd years) yet LVG lets two go and only brings in one.  Rooney needs dropped and why does he persist with two holding midfielders when United are eating the ball, why not push one forward (Bastian) and see what happens.  Carrick is not the answer either, always labours in possession.  My dream is that United end up getting Mourinho or Simeone come the summer.  LVG has steadied the ship after the Moyes debacle but he is not the answer going forward. 

How does LVG justify his treatment of Herrera and Mata against that of Rooney.  The two spaniards have and will offer more in terms of a goal threat (assists/goals) yet rarely get an uninterrupted run in the team yet Rooney is a near cert irrelevant of form.

[STREET FIGHTER]

He's a really good defender any time I've seen him. Possibly just making the adjustment he might need a rest. You know, "the hustle and bustle" 

Was hoping he would follow in the trend of Italian's moving to the Premiership but been impressed with him, whenever I've seen him.

Works both ways that, British players going to Italy and doing shit

Hasn't played really ever since he got hauled off at HT against Liverpool or Arsenal was it.......

[JoG2]

There are lots of teams about now (and in the past) that score lots of goals.  It is not something that is particularly hard to achieve if a bit of money has been spent, which has been in United's case.  LVG has actually done the hard bit and made his team defensively strong.  But looking back at it from a simplistic perspective, United were terrible on the goal front last year (worst goals total in 20 odd years) yet LVG lets two go and only brings in one.  Rooney needs dropped and why does he persist with two holding midfielders when United are eating the ball, why not push one forward (Bastian) and see what happens.  Carrick is not the answer either, always labours in possession.  My dream is that United end up getting Mourinho or Simeone come the summer.  LVG has steadied the ship after the Moyes debacle but he is not the answer going forward. 

How does LVG justify his treatment of Herrera and Mata against that of Rooney.  The two spaniards have and will offer more in terms of a goal threat (assists/goals) yet rarely get an uninterrupted run in the team yet Rooney is a near cert irrelevant of form.

does winning really mean that much?

[Maroon Manc]

There are lots of teams about now (and in the past) that score lots of goals.  It is not something that is particularly hard to achieve if a bit of money has been spent, which has been in United's case.  LVG has actually done the hard bit and made his team defensively strong.  But looking back at it from a simplistic perspective, United were terrible on the goal front last year (worst goals total in 20 odd years) yet LVG lets two go and only brings in one.  Rooney needs dropped and why does he persist with two holding midfielders when United are eating the ball, why not push one forward (Bastian) and see what happens.  Carrick is not the answer either, always labours in possession.  My dream is that United end up getting Mourinho or Simeone come the summer.  LVG has steadied the ship after the Moyes debacle but he is not the answer going forward. 

How does LVG justify his treatment of Herrera and Mata against that of Rooney.  The two spaniards have and will offer more in terms of a goal threat (assists/goals) yet rarely get an uninterrupted run in the team yet Rooney is a near cert irrelevant of form.

Mourinho & Simone, both are more pragmatic than LVG so I'm not sure of your logic?  Pep will have on eye on the job & I like Pochettino too, his team play a good brand of football and he's not worried by playing younger players either but will reserve full judgement on him until the end of the season.

Carrick hash is uses, he's the best passer of our 5 midfielders and easily has the most variation.

Agree on Herrera & Mata, although not convinced by Mata he deserves a run in his best position ahead of Rooney.

The injury to Shaw is a huge loss, he was having such a positive impact on our play and that helped Depay too, it gave him more space. Valencia is a bigger loss than people realise too, as frustrating as he is at crossing the ball the rest of his game has improved in the last 6 months at rightback.