Man Utd Thread:

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Don't think Valencia will get that goal. Definately an OG as was going well wide. Knew when Scholes scored they would equalise. Never seen the Fletcher incident, by all accounts it was scandalous. Where did the ref get the 2 extra minutes in injury time. Thought it was the Derby all over again.

Utd have been lucky enough in this campaign, but still qualified. Late goals in first 3 games to win rather than draw and late goal tonight to get a point, to make it 10 points instead of 4. But that's what you expect from Utd. Had to laugh at the CSKA manager rocking away in his seat when it was still 3-2 and going into injury time.

77th and 78th minutes. Practically on the referee's whistle.

To be fair to the ref on the Fletcher incident, I wasn't sure it was a penalty on first glance. Thought the fall seemed a bit over dramatic but ont he replay it was clearly a penalty.

Poor performance though - Nani awful again - central of midfield a worry though FLetcher probabl;y just needs games. Hopefully that will bring him on for Sunday as we missed the bite in midfield he or Hargreaves provides against Liverpool.

Was anybody else frustrated for the first 3/4s of the match byt he crossing? Though on a lot of occasions the crosses were either poor or the ball was knocked back by Neville or Valencia when they should have been putting the ball in the box.

[RedandGreenSniper]

Penalty decision was wrong but you have to cope with that. Had we got that peno and scored, we would have won. Still a draw will do. Evans did invite trouble a bit. Nani, ffs, is there a brain transplant available?

[stiffler]

Whats the likely team for the Chavs game then?

[ONeill]

There is simply no other club team in the world that exerts that amount of pressure on the opposition in the final 5 minutes plus injury time than Utd, when they scent blood. I usually kick the missus when they do it but tonight it was a pleasure to watch. Players who played average to crap for 85 minutes suddenly become Zidanes for 10 minutes, breaking tackles, passing at speed - every touch a good one. It is relentless. Those deflections aren't luck - if you're battering the door down the slightest touch might see it eventually collapse. The opposition dung them.

If Utd could do that at 20 minute intervals they'd blow teams away long before the final quarter.

[Farrandeelin]

There is simply no other club team in the world that exerts that amount of pressure on the opposition in the final 5 minutes plus injury time than Utd, when they scent blood. I usually kick the missus when they do it but tonight it was a pleasure to watch. Players who played average to crap for 85 minutes suddenly become Zidanes for 10 minutes, breaking tackles, passing at speed - every touch a good one. It is relentless. Those deflections aren't luck - if you're battering the door down the slightest touch might see it eventually collapse. The opposition dung them.

If Utd could do that at 20 minute intervals they'd blow teams away long before the final quarter.

I was just saying that to me oul lad. Why the f**k does it take them till the last 10 minutes to play when they're behind? They shouldn't be behind if they played like that for most of the game!!!

As for Chelsea, the defence needs sorting out BIG TIME!

[Archie Mitchell]

Didn't realise the Beskitas winner was in 77th minute, seemed like it was closer to the end. But it's still late on that they really only took control of the games with the goal. As A'Nail said, its the pressure Utd put on in the last 10/15 minutes that causes the team to buckle.

Seen the Fletcher incident, definately a penalty, but thought the way he fell with both his legs going back looked like a dive from where the ref was standing. If the 5th official had of been behind the goal like for Europa League games, he would have given it.

[RedandGreenSniper]

There is simply no other club team in the world that exerts that amount of pressure on the opposition in the final 5 minutes plus injury time than Utd, when they scent blood. I usually kick the missus when they do it but tonight it was a pleasure to watch. Players who played average to crap for 85 minutes suddenly become Zidanes for 10 minutes, breaking tackles, passing at speed - every touch a good one. It is relentless. Those deflections aren't luck - if you're battering the door down the slightest touch might see it eventually collapse. The opposition dung them.

If Utd could do that at 20 minute intervals they'd blow teams away long before the final quarter.

Good to see a non United fan acknowledge why United do so well late on. Now all we need is a Scouser to smell the roses. Fancy being gracious LaoisLad?

[slow corner back]

 Fergie more or less put out a carling cup team tonight. If everyone was fit and available only VDS and Valencia would start against the chavs and a fully fit Fletcher. Chelsea had almost a full strength team out tonite and struggled in spain. The return of O shea and Evra will help the defence as will Carrick and Giggs in Midfield. Scholes is genius but his legs are gone and fletcher is nowhere near fit on tonites evidence. Likely team VDS, O shea Vidic ( hopefully) Evans, Evra, Valencia,Carrick, Anderson, Giggs, Berba and Rooney. Chelseas strength is all in midfield so need Anderson and Carrick to step up to the plate.

[heganboy]

as a 'pool fan- I will concur with the last 5 minutes thing. United have belief that they can rescue almost all situations, liverpool unfortunately seem to need to play well in the first five minutes otherwise any situation they are in can go downhill fast.

[Archie Mitchell]

Bit of a difference playing CSKA Moscow at home than playing Athletico Madrid away, especially with the talent Madrid have. You just have to look at Aguero's goals tonight to see the difference in class.

[mountainboii]

Bit of a difference playing CSKA Moscow at home than playing Athletico Madrid away, especially with the talent Madrid have. You just have to look at Aguero's goals tonight to see the difference in class.

Not on current form anyway. Atletico have one win in their 13 games this year and currently sit in the relegation zone in La Liga.

[Archie Mitchell]

I know, but they have got a new lease of life under their new manager.

Sure a Liverpool team in similar bad form took care of Utd easy enough a few weeks ago

[Minder]

The ref does not have a "second look"

[new devil]

ML you should know my now to not even reply to the muppets that are "minder" and "Laoislad"

[Norf Tyrone]

Fergie more or less put out a carling cup team tonight. If everyone was fit and available only VDS and Valencia would start against the chavs and a fully fit Fletcher. Chelsea had almost a full strength team out tonite and struggled in spain. The return of O shea and Evra will help the defence as will Carrick and Giggs in Midfield. Scholes is genius but his legs are gone and fletcher is nowhere near fit on tonites evidence. Likely team VDS, O shea Vidic ( hopefully) Evans, Evra, Valencia,Carrick, Anderson, Giggs, Berba and Rooney. Chelseas strength is all in midfield so need Anderson and Carrick to step up to the plate.

That's right. Bar Carvalho, Bosingwa, Ballack, and Anelka being rested, and Joe Cole and Alex getting starts after injury it was almost a full strength team. How do you know Chelsea struggled?

It was a complacent, 60% Chelsea performance that only kicked in after AM went one up. A sloopy free kick at the end stopped the Blues winning in Spain.