Sam Maguire permutations

[armaghniac]

For all the complaints of the way Derry set up, teams like Clare and Sligo need start using that as a starting point.

There a couple of aspects to that, including the transition forward, how you get back if there is a turnover and covering people coming in on the back line.

[Cunny Funt]

For all the complaints of the way Derry set up, teams like Clare and Sligo need start using that as a starting point.

There a couple of aspects to that, including the transition forward, how you get back if there is a turnover and covering people coming in on the back line.

A lot of work will be required on strength and conditioning by Clare,Sligo before they try to copy the way Derry play.

[screenexile]

Kerry buzzing to be winning another Munster!!

[larryin89]

Fball got to the point where you got Kerry, Dublin, Galway a fair bit ahead of everybody, then Mayo, Tyrone, Derry, Armagh, Roscommon, who might beat one of the above but not two of them in the same year. After that nothing. It's went the way of hurling years ago were some teams on the day could do a upset but not any more. What the f**k going on in Cork, the size of the place.

Kerry are a fair bit ahead of the rest , not a lot between the chasing pack of Derry, Armagh , dublin , Galway, Mayo and tyrone . 

[Blowitupref]

Confirmed round 1 matches in two weeks.

(May 20/21)
Kerry v Mayo
Galway v Tyrone
Clare v Donegal
Sligo v Kildare

[From the Bunker]

Jez, them two finals were a real borefest. RTE should have saved themselves a few quid and had a tripe bill of James Bond Movies!

[Eire90]

terrible advert for provincials the ulster final might be close and the provincial brigade will be arnt the provincials great.

[imtommygunn]

For all the complaints of the way Derry set up, teams like Clare and Sligo need start using that as a starting point.

Every team would setup the same if they could but you need to be extremely fit to pull of tactics like that and most counties won't have that investment!

[yellowcard]

Fball got to the point where you got Kerry, Dublin, Galway a fair bit ahead of everybody, then Mayo, Tyrone, Derry, Armagh, Roscommon, who might beat one of the above but not two of them in the same year. After that nothing. It's went the way of hurling years ago were some teams on the day could do a upset but not any more. What the f**k going on in Cork, the size of the place.

Kerry are a fair bit ahead of the rest , not a lot between the chasing pack of Derry, Armagh , dublin , Galway, Mayo and tyrone .

They might be the front runners but they're not way ahead of the rest on the back of demolition jobs on Tipperary and Clare. I don't see any of the Ulster sides as real AI contenders, the main two are Galway and Dublin.

[Captain Obvious]

Fball got to the point where you got Kerry, Dublin, Galway a fair bit ahead of everybody, then Mayo, Tyrone, Derry, Armagh, Roscommon, who might beat one of the above but not two of them in the same year. After that nothing. It's went the way of hurling years ago were some teams on the day could do a upset but not any more. What the f**k going on in Cork, the size of the place.

Kerry are a fair bit ahead of the rest , not a lot between the chasing pack of Derry, Armagh , dublin , Galway, Mayo and tyrone .

They might be the front runners but they're not way ahead of the rest on the back of demolition jobs on Tipperary and Clare. I don't see any of the Ulster sides as real AI contenders, the main two are Galway and Dublin.

Not based on this years form as have a lot of improving to do.

[Armagh18]

Kerry get rewarded as a 1st seed and all the advantages that carries for winning a nothing Munster Championship.

They're all ireland champions and favourites to win it again. Gonna be a first seed no matter you work out the criteria.

[yellowcard]

Kerry get rewarded as a 1st seed and all the advantages that carries for winning a nothing Munster Championship.

They're all ireland champions and favourites to win it again. Gonna be a first seed no matter you work out the criteria.

That's correct, Kerry are a first seed side no matter what way you look at it. I'd have much more of an issue with the fact that sides like Clare and Sligo are now second seeds having done nothing to merit being ranked that highly. This then skews the draw in favour of the teams in their group. Sligo shouldn't even be in the AI series considering they had wins over New York and Leitrim to get there.

I think the link needs to be solely between League position and not provincial championships.   

[yellowcard]

Fball got to the point where you got Kerry, Dublin, Galway a fair bit ahead of everybody, then Mayo, Tyrone, Derry, Armagh, Roscommon, who might beat one of the above but not two of them in the same year. After that nothing. It's went the way of hurling years ago were some teams on the day could do a upset but not any more. What the f**k going on in Cork, the size of the place.

Kerry are a fair bit ahead of the rest , not a lot between the chasing pack of Derry, Armagh , dublin , Galway, Mayo and tyrone .

They might be the front runners but they're not way ahead of the rest on the back of demolition jobs on Tipperary and Clare. I don't see any of the Ulster sides as real AI contenders, the main two are Galway and Dublin.

Not based on this years form as have a lot of improving to do.

Possibly but we won't really know until they play the big teams in the AI series. I'm probably basing it off last years narrow semi final defeat to Kerry when a fit Con O'Callaghan probably would have won them the game. They also have Mannion and McCaffrey back from last year. 

[imtommygunn]

Not many would beat Dublin I would say. What they did to Derry in league final was impressive- still very much a contender.

[Rossfan]

Jez, them two finals were a real borefest.

Did you seriously expect anything else.
Less than 25k attendance combined. Surprised they even got that many as I thought they'd be lucky to get over 9,999 at each of them.