Fermanagh v Derry - Ulster Football Championship Quarter-Final, Sat 15th April

[ONeill]

Who was the anchor? She was excellent.

[seafoid]

You take any of the top sides in Ireland, bar Derry, and ask them who do they not want to meet. Derry will be high up on all lists.

Derry are also afraid of Derry.

[Wildweasel74]

Derry are fairly good but we 2 short in the forwards, and not strong enough on the bench. Anybody in Derry knows this and don't expect to be near an All-Ireland. But we come a long way from Division 4. Game like that today, I though he give a few of the subs game time. That high ball into the square without Glass there sorta lost them a few times but the 2nd goal was simply poor defending as there were 2lads there and Cullen squeezed between them. Poor.

[Wildweasel74]

I seen McKeigue absolutely destroy Dermot Connolly. Now he used for a specific man-marker, bit off the pace after Injury but he's still a top defender.

[marty34]

Who was the anchor? She was excellent.

Yeah, she was good.

I like just 2 pundits as gives them more time each and go into more detail.

At the end, there was 4. Philly joined the other three and imo, it was too much. Everyone had to get a chance to talk etc.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Who was the anchor? She was excellent.

Sarah Mulkerrins. Superb, but there were no weak links.

Should let that team do The Sunday Game every week.

[JoG2]

Who was the anchor? She was excellent.

Yeah, she was good.

I like just 2 pundits as gives them more time each and go into more detail.

At the end, there was 4. Philly joined the other three and imo, it was too much. Everyone had to get a chance to talk etc.

Don't think Philly was meant to arrive late. Walked past us with about 20 mins to throw in with a sheepish head on him like a teenager arriving into school late. Must have hit traffic on the way up 

[Silver hill]

Derry won't want to meet Derry.....interesting.

[seafoid]

Derry won't want to meet Derry.....interesting.

They are not ruthless enough. There is a certain sloppiness eg the second goal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XBgMpufcSg
And they can't change system mid game. These are all weaknesses that no other team causes. Derry have to overcome them.

[93-DY-SAM]

Said it before. Rory is a one trick pony, very classless and it showed today. Same system as Donegal when he managed them, they have a few years left at this system but ultimately they will fail as its too difficult to maintain. Also the system relies on direction from Rory, not trusting the players to change it up as required.

Tell me how the Derry setup differs from pretty much every other county in the country...? Start with Tyrone sure

Derry are playing identical to Tyrone 2016 to 2017
We never won ulster titles as easily, yet were never as easily swatted aside in HQ
Mugsy detailed it well, you need one style of play to do well in ulster and an entirely different one to do well in the AI series. Derry will never be brave enough to challenge for Sam
Specific examples of that: the captain mckaigie is a poor footballer, extremely limited. Derry wax lyrically about him. When did he last score a point from play? Would Tyrone have won Sam with Mckaigie in place of McNamee or Hampsey or McKernan?
Remember each of them scored from play in the semi final against Kerry. Small margins

McKaigue a poor footballer. f**k I've heard some shite on this board at times but put the bottle down son. Chrissy is one of the best man markers in the game. He is isn't there to score points.

Few Tyrone ones seem to be getting their knickers in a twist about Derry. Great to see. Means we must be doing something right.

[tyrone08]

Said it before. Rory is a one trick pony, very classless and it showed today. Same system as Donegal when he managed them, they have a few years left at this system but ultimately they will fail as its too difficult to maintain. Also the system relies on direction from Rory, not trusting the players to change it up as required.

Tell me how the Derry setup differs from pretty much every other county in the country...? Start with Tyrone sure

Easy. You don't see any other manger in the country roaring instructions at every second at their players. Shows he doesn't trust his players and also shows he wants it all about him. Also not every team rely solely on their starting 15, you seen what happened when glass went off against Dublin, Derry fell apart.

Tyrone can vary their attack by drifting in Con or Brian into the full forward for a long ball attack or via McCurry or canavan. Derrys attack relies on a pre set game plan.

Derry same as Donegal under Rory and Jim rely on their team getting ahead and keeping the lead. Derry can't claw back from behind as other top teams can.

Lol Con and Brian. 2 grafters. We'll see how good they are against Glass and Rogers. Kennedy won't have the legs.

We will see indeed. Ulster will be Derrys limit

[Armagh18]

Said it before. Rory is a one trick pony, very classless and it showed today. Same system as Donegal when he managed them, they have a few years left at this system but ultimately they will fail as its too difficult to maintain. Also the system relies on direction from Rory, not trusting the players to change it up as required.

Tell me how the Derry setup differs from pretty much every other county in the country...? Start with Tyrone sure

Easy. You don't see any other manger in the country roaring instructions at every second at their players. Shows he doesn't trust his players and also shows he wants it all about him. Also not every team rely solely on their starting 15, you seen what happened when glass went off against Dublin, Derry fell apart.

Tyrone can vary their attack by drifting in Con or Brian into the full forward for a long ball attack or via McCurry or canavan. Derrys attack relies on a pre set game plan.

Derry same as Donegal under Rory and Jim rely on their team getting ahead and keeping the lead. Derry can't claw back from behind as other top teams can.

Lol Con and Brian. 2 grafters. We'll see how good they are against Glass and Rogers. Kennedy won't have the legs.

We will see indeed. Ulster will be Derrys limit

Strange as it sound, I'd back Derry to beat Tyrone well, but I'd give Tyrone a better chance than Derry against the likes of Kerry/Galway/Dublin/Mayo.

[tyrone08]

Said it before. Rory is a one trick pony, very classless and it showed today. Same system as Donegal when he managed them, they have a few years left at this system but ultimately they will fail as its too difficult to maintain. Also the system relies on direction from Rory, not trusting the players to change it up as required.

Tell me how the Derry setup differs from pretty much every other county in the country...? Start with Tyrone sure

Easy. You don't see any other manger in the country roaring instructions at every second at their players. Shows he doesn't trust his players and also shows he wants it all about him. Also not every team rely solely on their starting 15, you seen what happened when glass went off against Dublin, Derry fell apart.

Tyrone can vary their attack by drifting in Con or Brian into the full forward for a long ball attack or via McCurry or canavan. Derrys attack relies on a pre set game plan.

Derry same as Donegal under Rory and Jim rely on their team getting ahead and keeping the lead. Derry can't claw back from behind as other top teams can.

Not easy then. Derry will leave a forward up the pitch from time to time, so that will fall into the 'varying the attack' as is rotating half backs into the forward area, also varying the attack. Gallagher may roar non stop but its more a nervous tick like the spitting than anything else. Most of the time the players don't even look in his direction when he's shouting at them
So, the lazy narrative is to say the Derry way when it's the way every county plays the game these days.
Derry 'clawed' their way back twice against Donegal in the Ulster final and against Dublin from 5 points down @ Celtic Park. Again, lazy analysis.

So your analysis is Derry beat a Donegal team on the decline and a Dublin team in Derrys home pitch.

[tyrone08]

Said it before. Rory is a one trick pony, very classless and it showed today. Same system as Donegal when he managed them, they have a few years left at this system but ultimately they will fail as its too difficult to maintain. Also the system relies on direction from Rory, not trusting the players to change it up as required.

Tell me how the Derry setup differs from pretty much every other county in the country...? Start with Tyrone sure

Easy. You don't see any other manger in the country roaring instructions at every second at their players. Shows he doesn't trust his players and also shows he wants it all about him. Also not every team rely solely on their starting 15, you seen what happened when glass went off against Dublin, Derry fell apart.

Tyrone can vary their attack by drifting in Con or Brian into the full forward for a long ball attack or via McCurry or canavan. Derrys attack relies on a pre set game plan.

Derry same as Donegal under Rory and Jim rely on their team getting ahead and keeping the lead. Derry can't claw back from behind as other top teams can.

Lol Con and Brian. 2 grafters. We'll see how good they are against Glass and Rogers. Kennedy won't have the legs.

We will see indeed. Ulster will be Derrys limit

Strange as it sound, I'd back Derry to beat Tyrone well, but I'd give Tyrone a better chance than Derry against the likes of Kerry/Galway/Dublin/Mayo.

I agree. Think Derry will win ulster but won't win an AI or get to a final. Tyrone won't win either. Think it's either mayo or kerry this year.

[tyrone08]

For the record I don't have any issue with Derry. I was there cheering them on when they won the AI. I however don't like Rorys personality or approach to football, setting 8 men in front of a person taking a 45 for example or the constant booing which seems to follow his teams for opposition frees.

I simply think his approach is limited to winning an ulster title and that's it