Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2025

Started by Captain Obvious, March 22, 2023, 05:58:04 PM

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rodney trotter

A few hammerings. 2 pts for Antrim is shocking. Is there any investment in underage or just notions of a nice Casement?

Armagh18

Is your man Sargeant playing for Derry? Say he wouldn't be far off senior level, machine of a man.

oakleaflad

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Quote from: jay110 on February 20, 2025, 04:57:15 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2025, 03:24:23 PMThe competition commences Wednesday 19th March.  Derry and Tyrone should be the two strongest again and Ulster winner will be hard stopped in the All Ireland series once more.


Fermanagh would be tough to beat this year. A surprise is on the cards in the first group. I'd say either Donegal or Tyrone won't make it out of that group.
This didn't age too well

armaghniac

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 26, 2025, 09:10:54 PMResults one sided matches and one draw

Monaghan 1-10 Cavan 0-13
Tyrone 6-26 Fermanagh 0-6
Armagh 0-13 Derry 2-24
Antrim 0-2 Donegal 3-23

Not totally unusual in this competition. Even without 2 pointers Tyrone beat Monaghan by 27 points last year in the round robin, but only won by a point in the semi-final. Mind you, Antrim scored at least 3 last year.
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marty34

Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2025, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 26, 2025, 09:10:54 PMResults one sided matches and one draw

Monaghan 1-10 Cavan 0-13
Tyrone 6-26 Fermanagh 0-6
Armagh 0-13 Derry 2-24
Antrim 0-2 Donegal 3-23

Not totally unusual in this competition. Even without 2 pointers Tyrone beat Monaghan by 27 points last year in the round robin, but only won by a point in the semi-final. Mind you, Antrim scored at least 3 last year.

Was this not considered an 'ok' Antrim team?

nrico2006

Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2025, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 26, 2025, 09:10:54 PMResults one sided matches and one draw

Monaghan 1-10 Cavan 0-13
Tyrone 6-26 Fermanagh 0-6
Armagh 0-13 Derry 2-24
Antrim 0-2 Donegal 3-23

Not totally unusual in this competition. Even without 2 pointers Tyrone beat Monaghan by 27 points last year in the round robin, but only won by a point in the semi-final. Mind you, Antrim scored at least 3 last year.

Two different Monaghan teams though.
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ClubScene13

Eamon Young, James Sargent, Johnny McGuckian is some half forward line for this level. Donegal are dangerous but it could be the same as last year, where whoever wins when Tyrone and Derry meet will be thinking of an All Ireland.

Galway and Mayo probably need watched having been the minor final 3 years ago but hard to know how much continuity you can take from U17 to U20

cornerback

Quote from: ClubScene13 on March 26, 2025, 11:33:12 PMEamon Young, James Sargent, Johnny McGuckian is some half forward line for this level. Donegal are dangerous but it could be the same as last year, where whoever wins when Tyrone and Derry meet will be thinking of an All Ireland.

Galway and Mayo probably need watched having been the minor final 3 years ago but hard to know how much continuity you can take from U17 to U20

There are only 11 of Derry's 2022 minor panel on the 2025 u20 panel (35 players).

Wildweasel74

That Minor team had got to a All Ireland semi final.

marty34

Yeah, U17 to U20 is a completely different squad. Things change a lot in that time frame.

It's a busy period in young lads lives - loss of interest, uni, jobs and travel etc. A lot changes in a few months, never mind a few years.

During this age group they are pulled from pillar to post on that many different teams. Never mind if they're dual players. 

If they get past that, only one age group that they can play for.

oakleaflad

Quote from: ClubScene13 on March 26, 2025, 11:33:12 PMEamon Young, James Sargent, Johnny McGuckian is some half forward line for this level. Donegal are dangerous but it could be the same as last year, where whoever wins when Tyrone and Derry meet will be thinking of an All Ireland.

Galway and Mayo probably need watched having been the minor final 3 years ago but hard to know how much continuity you can take from U17 to U20
All of them still U20 next year and two of them for the year after that too afaik.
Nice to see the talent coming through, can hopefully help with the squad depth in the senior side over the coming years.

Squareball71

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 26, 2025, 09:55:12 PMIs your man Sargeant playing for Derry? Say he wouldn't be far off senior level, machine of a man.

James Sargent is only out of minors and will be one for the future but not ready for senior just yet. Plenty more serious talent in this squad if they can be kept together and nurtured along over the next few years.

Armagh18

Quote from: Squareball71 on March 27, 2025, 03:25:59 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 26, 2025, 09:55:12 PMIs your man Sargeant playing for Derry? Say he wouldn't be far off senior level, machine of a man.

James Sargent is only out of minors and will be one for the future but not ready for senior just yet. Plenty more serious talent in this squad if they can be kept together and nurtured along over the next few years.
Some player. Beat our lads on his own in the final last year.

Plenty of talent coming through in Derry for sure.

SouthOfThe Bann

Derry and Tyrone seems to be miles ahead of the majority of counties with underage development.


onefineday

Quote from: cornerback on March 27, 2025, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on March 26, 2025, 11:33:12 PMEamon Young, James Sargent, Johnny McGuckian is some half forward line for this level. Donegal are dangerous but it could be the same as last year, where whoever wins when Tyrone and Derry meet will be thinking of an All Ireland.

Galway and Mayo probably need watched having been the minor final 3 years ago but hard to know how much continuity you can take from U17 to U20

There are only 11 of Derry's 2022 minor panel on the 2025 u20 panel (35 players).
The word on the street was that Derry took the cream of the 2022 panel and added a good chunk of the 2023 minor team and a sprinkling of the 2024 minors. I'm not sure how many of those newbridge lads were on the 2022 team, but I heard there were no trials at any rate.