Hurling 2023

Started by seafoid, January 01, 2023, 08:24:25 PM

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seafoid

Limerick 7
Kilkenny 5
Clare    2
Galway   1

The difference between 5 and 1 was a jammy goal.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/1115/1416662-limerick-and-kilkenny-dozen-on-all-star-hurling-team/

In the early 80s the finalists got 6.

seafoid

In 1983 Nicky English won an All Star based on his potential. Tipp won nothing.It would be another 4 years before they won Munster for the first time since 1971.  He must have only been 21 or 22. He subsequently  became one of the greats. The All Stars now are more like the Ballon D'or. There is no room for developing stars.

marty34

Quote from: seafoid on November 16, 2023, 08:59:32 AMLimerick 7
Kilkenny 5
Clare    2
Galway   1

The difference between 5 and 1 was a jammy goal.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/1115/1416662-limerick-and-kilkenny-dozen-on-all-star-hurling-team/

In the early 80s the finalists got 6.

Galway were average enough this year and only Whelan deserved one.

Kilkenny will be happy with 5.  Limerick lads will, no doubt, add on a few more before the end of their careers. Hard to catch Henry on 11. Unreal!

Great recognition for the players at the end of the year. Well deserved.  Nice individual honour.

seafoid

Quote from: marty34 on November 16, 2023, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 16, 2023, 08:59:32 AMLimerick 7
Kilkenny 5
Clare    2
Galway   1

The difference between 5 and 1 was a jammy goal.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/1115/1416662-limerick-and-kilkenny-dozen-on-all-star-hurling-team/

In the early 80s the finalists got 6.

Galway were average enough this year and only Whelan deserved one.

Kilkenny will be happy with 5.  Limerick lads will, no doubt, add on a few more before the end of their careers. Hard to catch Henry on 11. Unreal!

Great recognition for the players at the end of the year. Well deserved.  Nice individual honour.
Limerick are still far ahead. Leading the Peleton are KK, Galway and Clare. There is very little  between them. The All-stars do not reflect this. The focus on the final distorts the reality imo. 

imtommygunn

Ultimately they are individual awards though and take for example KK - Eoin Cody, Lawlor, Butler etc are outstanding individuals. Limerick are much better as a team and tbh as individuals they are too but had a bit of churn this year with injuries or would deserve more. (Incidentally I actually don't think their 2 midfielders deserved one).

Clare have some outstanding individuals but Tony Kelly just hasn't performed on the big occasion too many times to get one - I would agree he didn't deserve one and the others just didn't do enough. Galway weren't really at it this year tbh.


johnnycool

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Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2023, 08:57:05 AMUltimately they are individual awards though and take for example KK - Eoin Cody, Lawlor, Butler etc are outstanding individuals. Limerick are much better as a team and tbh as individuals they are too but had a bit of churn this year with injuries or would deserve more. (Incidentally I actually don't think their 2 midfielders deserved one).

Clare have some outstanding individuals but Tony Kelly just hasn't performed on the big occasion too many times to get one - I would agree he didn't deserve one and the others just didn't do enough. Galway weren't really at it this year tbh.



Yet Butler gets one for keeping him quiet??

Don't agree on the TJ Reid one but this happens all the time with great hurlers in their twilight years pick up a few extra baubles, same as Henry at Horgan.


seafoid

Kilkenny got sucker punched in the final like Galway in the semi. Neither team had an answer. It is probably better to lose a semi in that scenario. Losing finals is horrible.