Assaults at GAA games

Started by Rudi, September 01, 2022, 11:57:55 AM

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thewobbler

Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 11:24:33 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1020/1330294-castlebar-mitchels-report-alleged-child-abuse-to-tusla/

Big decision by Castlebar Mitchels, makes a mockery of the appeals process & rightly so. A 96 week suspension reduced to a 2 game suspension.

It's surely difficult to come to your conclusion unless you saw the incident and in context.

For the competition committee to hand out a 2 year ban to an individual, they must have had a clear picture that what happened wasn't just an ordinary GAA incident, and needed a disrepute charge.

For the competition committee to eject Westport from the competition they must have had a clear understanding that the adult in question has a direct relationship with the Westport u17 team; he would have to be part of the management team, and not there in the capacity of a spectator. Otherwise it would be criminally unfair to eject a team (let alone a juvenile team).

For the hearings committee to remove the disrepute charge and turn it into a match-based suspension, they must also have had an understanding that the individual has a direct role in the Westport u17 team. Otherwise the suspension is pointless.

At which point, they also must have deemed that the incident was within the "normal boundaries" described in the GAA rule book, and not worthy of a disrepute charge. Or else that the proof of incident previously used by the competition committee, was unreliable, tampered with, or incomplete (in which case, competition committee would need a boot in the hole).

So there could be more to this than meets they eye. But most likely there's a video that refutes the referee's report.


But you know they also might do things different out west!


twohands!!!

Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 11:24:33 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1020/1330294-castlebar-mitchels-report-alleged-child-abuse-to-tusla/

Big decision by Castlebar Mitchels, makes a mockery of the appeals process & rightly so. A 96 week suspension reduced to a 2 game suspension.

Good to see.

Everyone knows the GAA disciplinary system is a joke especially as regards appeals.

Thinking about I'd imagine every club who have an incident like this with an under 18 year have a legal obligation to report it to Tusla.

You'd wonder why other clubs (in the 26) have not being doing this all along.

I presume child protection laws in the six are very similar about reporting U18 stuff ?

armaghniac

Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 11:24:33 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1020/1330294-castlebar-mitchels-report-alleged-child-abuse-to-tusla/

Big decision by Castlebar Mitchels, makes a mockery of the appeals process & rightly so. A 96 week suspension reduced to a 2 game suspension.

The article is badly written. There is an individual suspension and a team suspension. I read it as the team suspension being reduced. This may or may not be a good thing, removing other Westport child players from competition is not necessarily the optimum course of action as those players had no control over the offending adult.
But reporting it is the right thing to do, ideally Tusla would get a court order banning the individual from having anything to do with children's sports.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

LeoMc

My reading is that it was the individuals suspension that was reduced to 2 games.

Castlebar Mitchels prepared a 'Reported Allegation of Abuse Form' and this has been submitted to the Mayo County Board, Connacht GAA, Croke Park and TUSLA," read the statement, going on to detail how Westport were fined €1,000 and removed from the competition, while the indivdual was banned for 96 weeks.


"Westport appealed this decision to the Appeals Hearing Mayo GAA and following on from the appeal it was announced that they have been reinstated to the competition and the 96-week ban has been reduced to two games.

armaghniac

Quote from: LeoMc on October 20, 2022, 02:46:27 PM
My reading is that it was the individuals suspension that was reduced to 2 games.

Castlebar Mitchels prepared a 'Reported Allegation of Abuse Form' and this has been submitted to the Mayo County Board, Connacht GAA, Croke Park and TUSLA," read the statement, going on to detail how Westport were fined €1,000 and removed from the competition, while the indivdual was banned for 96 weeks.


"Westport appealed this decision to the Appeals Hearing Mayo GAA and following on from the appeal it was announced that they have been reinstated to the competition and the 96-week ban has been reduced to two games.

If a 96 weeks ban was reduced to 2 games than something is well out of order.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

whitey

Quote from: armaghniac on October 20, 2022, 02:52:36 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 20, 2022, 02:46:27 PM
My reading is that it was the individuals suspension that was reduced to 2 games.

Castlebar Mitchels prepared a 'Reported Allegation of Abuse Form' and this has been submitted to the Mayo County Board, Connacht GAA, Croke Park and TUSLA," read the statement, going on to detail how Westport were fined €1,000 and removed from the competition, while the indivdual was banned for 96 weeks.


"Westport appealed this decision to the Appeals Hearing Mayo GAA and following on from the appeal it was announced that they have been reinstated to the competition and the 96-week ban has been reduced to two games.

If a 96 weeks ban was reduced to 2 games than something is well out of order.


There is even video footage of the incident. The Mayo County Board actually fined Castlebar €250 for recording the game without getting pre-approval. (which they have already paid)




Wildweasel74

Maybe the lads patents should got the garda involved, not that Larry Mccarthy could give you a straight answer on what to do.


Milltown Row2

Your club should have a code of conduct that it sticks to without backing down..

The parents and the kids sign it at registration and should they not stick to it then given their registration fee back and let go

Parents should not be allowed inside the pitch unless they have completed the various coaching courses available and the standard police check

It's simple to, if the ref feels there is target abuse he simply stops play and asks for the name of the person who's firing the abuse, if club refuse to give it then the club is fined

If you don't get tough on this it will only get worse, its nearly like any official be it the guy at the club doing the parking or a county delegate at the game and of course the ref and his officiating team are treated as being subhuman

How can a rational person turn up at a game and become a complete gobshite?
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Eire90

disgraceful scenes the gaa has a massive problem and a pandemic of small men in a small village syndrome.

Eire90

wouldn't be surprised if those in the crowd were coked  out of their mind