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Ambrose

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« Reply #555 on: March 04, 2020, 12:41:42 PM »
Disaster for farmers, along with upcoming reductions to subsidy payments at the same time.

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Re: Diesel Dippers
« Reply #556 on: March 04, 2020, 12:41:54 PM »
Can we blame DUP & Brexit for this?

Another incentive for farmers to vote for reunification?

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« Reply #557 on: March 04, 2020, 01:45:19 PM »
Can we blame DUP & Brexit for this?

Another incentive for farmers to vote for reunification?

Only if running a tractor on red diesel turns out to be more expensive than using green.

Likely to be some scam/scheme were farmers buy electric/hydro powered tractors and get £1.60 back for each KW used.

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« Reply #558 on: March 04, 2020, 04:34:11 PM »
That's gonna massively f**k things up.

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Explaining the increased duty on red diesel, a government official said: “We are talking not only about a significant contribution to climate change but also to the quality of our air.

“At the moment people aren’t incentivised to make the change to lower consumption or alternative fuels. We need to fix that.”

Are these f**kers living in the real world?

A small (120 bhp) sized tractor might run through over £100 of red a day.
A bigger (200 bhp) sized tractor might run through double that!

Thats north of a thousand pound a week on fuel and some f**kwit in whitehall thinks "people aren't incentivised to make the change to lower consumption"?

I'm guessing you might have missed or forgotten about this doozy last weekend...

Treasury adviser: farming and fisheries are not important

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One of the most senior government advisers has said the UK does not need its farming or fishing industries, according to reports.

In comments seen by the Mail on Sunday, Dr Tim Leunig is understood to have said the food sector was “not critically important” to the country’s economy – and that agriculture and fisheries “certainly isn’t”.

The economic adviser to the chancellor, in his leaked emails, is reported to have said that ministers could follow the example of Singapore, which is “rich without having its own agricultural sector”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/01/treasury-adviser-farming-and-fisheries-are-not-important

Oddly enough, for someone whom works at the London School of Economics, Dr. Leuing is actually wrong about Singapore - it does have a small agriculture industry that helps supply the city-state's residents with around 10% of its available food. And it is looking to increase this to 30% over the next ten years due to fears over long term food security.

To no great surprise, this suggestion has gone down with the National Farmers Union in Britain about as well as Michael Barrymore presenting the winners medals at a swim gala...

‘Completely out of touch’: NFU president hits out at reports senior government official said UK doesn’t need farming industry

‘Farms are the backbone of rural Britain,’ says National Farmers’ Union president

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-farming-industry-tim-leunig-treasury-brexit-nfu-a9367001.html

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« Reply #559 on: March 11, 2020, 02:18:44 PM »
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Chancellor to scrap diesel tax relief
The chancellor says he will scrap a scheme that allows companies in some sectors to pay duty of just over 11p per litre for diesel, compared to almost 58p per litre for everyone else.

"But the sectors using red diesel are some of the biggest contributors to our air quality problem - emitting nearly 10% of the most noxious gases polluting the air of cities like London," he tells MPs.

"This is a tax relief on nearly 14 million tonnes of carbon dioxide every year", which, he says, is the same as the entire population of London and Greater Manchester taking a return flight to New York.

"It’s been a £2.4bn tax break for pollution that’s also hindered the development of cleaner alternatives. So I will abolish the tax relief for most sectors."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-51765994/page/2

Done and dusted.

Setting up Boris to sell it all out to the yanks.



edit: I may have to row back on the above:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51832634

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*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded
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« Reply #560 on: March 11, 2020, 02:27:21 PM »

*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded

So red diesel will still exist and the need for diesel dippers will still exist.

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« Reply #561 on: March 11, 2020, 02:40:19 PM »

*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded

So red diesel will still exist and the need for diesel dippers will still exist.

More than ever, because they will no have to dip diggers.
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« Reply #562 on: March 12, 2020, 09:03:00 AM »

*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded

So red diesel will still exist and the need for diesel dippers will still exist.

More than ever, because they will no have to dip diggers.

Expect to see some building contractors "diversify" into farming as well!