Sam Maguire Qualifiers 2022

[anportmorforjfc]

How would Kildare losing trigger a prelim round?
Surely it only applies to Div3/4 teams

Because Westmeath are a Division 3 team who would be in a provincial final in this situation.
It would mean there are at least 9 teams in the Sam Maguire qualifiers, which would mean that a preliminary round is needed to get the number for round 1 of the Sam Maguire qualifiers down to 8 teams.

My understanding is if there are 9 teams, all of them would be put in a bowl and the first two drawn out would play each other with the first drawn getting home advantage.
Similar for 10 teams.

I think I read somewhere that teams that make their provisional semi finals will not have to play in the preliminary round.

[Rossfan]

Read that too that the PROVINCIAL semi Finalists wouldn't be in the preliminary.
I think that's Armagh,  Tyrone, Mayo, Clare, Louth in it if it happens.
Whatever about Westmeath  Tipp beating Limerick is quite possible.

[sam03/05]

If Westmeath beat Kildare then they would be in the Leinster final (if beat in that they would be in Round 2) of qualifiers along with other beaten finalists
If Westmeath lose they are in Div 3 so would be in tailatan cup

The only tie that can trigger a prelim round
Is if Tipp beat Limerick
Otherwise it's not a prelim round - all teams would be in round 1

[Redhand Santa]

If Westmeath beat Kildare then they would be in the Leinster final (if beat in that they would be in Round 2) of qualifiers along with other beaten finalists
If Westmeath lose they are in Div 3 so would be in tailatan cup

The only tie that can trigger a prelim round
Is if Tipp beat Limerick
Otherwise it's not a prelim round - all teams would be in round 1

If Westmeath win it will trigger a preliminary round.

[sam03/05]

No it won't
If Kildare go into Maguire competition
Then there is 10 teams
5 games - so how would that trigger a prelim round?
It's only if a Div 3/4 team enters

If Westmeath beat Kildare then they would be in the Leinster final (if beat in that they would be in Round 2) of qualifiers along with other beaten finalists
If Westmeath lose they are in Div 3 so would be in tailatan cup

The only tie that can trigger a prelim round
Is if Tipp beat Limerick
Otherwise it's not a prelim round - all teams would be in round 1

If Westmeath win it will trigger a preliminary round.

[Rossfan]

Lord give me patience.....
The first Round will consist of 8 teams.
If 9 or more qualify a Prelim Round is necessary to get it down to 8 so you can have 4 winners to play the 4 losing PROVINCIAL Finalists in Round 2.

[GAABoardMod5]

For those who haven't seen the Sam Maguire Qualifier Rules, as published in Dec 2021 (note the Prelim Round, if needed, will be limited to teams who did not make their Provincial semi-final):

All-Ireland Senior Football Qualifier

Eligible Counties

The following Counties shall be eligible to participate in the All- Ireland Championship Qualifiers:
a) The National League Divisions 1 and 2 Counties excluding the four Provincial Championship Winners in the Competition Year.
b) Any League Division 3 or 4 County (including New York) that has qualified for its Provincial Championship Final in the Competition Year.

Note
The compositions of the Divisions of the National League will be on the basis of the outcomes, including those of Promotion and Relegation, determined in the National League in the current Competition Year. Thus, the two counties promoted from Division Three in the competition year will be eligible for Tier 1, and the two counties relegated from Division Two in the competition year will be eligible for Tier 2, unless otherwise provided for above.

Venues
• Home Venues shall be used for the Preliminary Round and Round 1 games of the All-Ireland Qualifier Series, with the first team drawn having Home Advantage.
• Venues for Round 2 shall be determined by the Central Competitions Control Committee.
• Home Venues shall be subject to approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee.

Winner on the Day
• In the All-Ireland Football Qualifiers, Quarter-Finals & Semi-Finals there will be a winner on the day.


21-22.05.2022 (Sat/Sun)

Preliminary Round (If required)
A Preliminary Round shall be played to reduce the number of teams to eight.

The Preliminary Round shall be confined to Counties that have not qualified for their Provincial Championship Semi-Finals in the Competition Year. Byes are permitted in the Preliminary Round Draw where an uneven number of teams are involved.

An Open Draw shall be made to determine the pairings, with the first team drawn having home venue.

Round 1
04-05.06.2022 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
An Open Draw shall be made to determine the pairings, with the first team drawn having home venue.

Round 2
11-12.06.2022 (Sat/Sun)
(Four Games)
Each of the four defeated Provincial Finalists shall play against one of the four winners from Round 1.
An open draw shall be made to determine the pairings.
Venues for Round 2 shall be determined by the CCCC.

[Farrandeelin]

Read somewhere that if there's no preliminary round that the draw for the first round proper won't take place until the Monday before the games. Which if true is kind of stupid seeing all teams will be in it next week. Surely the draw will be known this day week.

[sam03/05]

That's crazy
Surely supporters and teams deserve to know in advance as to who is playing who

Read somewhere that if there's no preliminary round that the draw for the first round proper won't take place until the Monday before the games. Which if true is kind of stupid seeing all teams will be in it next week. Surely the draw will be known this day week.

[balladmaker]

That's crazy
Surely supporters and teams deserve to know in advance as to who is playing who

Read somewhere that if there's no preliminary round that the draw for the first round proper won't take place until the Monday before the games. Which if true is kind of stupid seeing all teams will be in it next week. Surely the draw will be known this day week.

Even a date for the draw would be good at this stage, all seems very cloak and dagger unless I'm completely missing the info. 

[An Watcher]

When's the draw folks?  Today or tomorrow

[Eire90]

is the draw not as exciting now since its regionalise

[Farrandeelin]

Draw will take place tomorrow week. Tailteann Cup tomorrow.

[inroundthesquare]

All teams will be known today - can't see why Qualifier draw can't be made tomorrow. Give teams and supporters 3 weeks instead of 2 weeks notice

[full moon]

All teams will be known today - can't see why Qualifier draw can't be made tomorrow. Give teams and supporters 3 weeks instead of 2 weeks notice

GAA admin don't care about supporters. If they did they would still accept cash at the turnstiles and not have older people struggling to get into matches. Their ticketing shambles is shameful and likely not helping attendances.