Diesel, petrol, oil price watch

Started by Dire Ear, March 08, 2022, 10:00:40 AM

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Rossfan

When or by whom was it decided we had almost reached wind capacity?
I'm looking at a big hungry mountain in Laythrum with not a wind turbine in sight.
To my left on the horizon is a high hill in Roscommon with a load of turbines.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Hereiam

At the current price the UK treasury is taking approx 80p in tax from every litre of diesel sold

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:52:48 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 
But farmers are the least rinsed

How so?
They are a coddled sector. Pay f**k all tax, get reliefs no other industry get, can pass assets around, can get retirement tax relief and keep working etc.

armaghniac

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PMBut it isn't costing £250m a dayyear. The government is lifting an extra £250m a dayyear over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

There are a lot of half baked calculations going around about this. The government did not make any extra duty, as this per litre. They did take in a bit of extra VAT, which was recoverable by any VAT registered business. But the cuts now far exceed any extra VAT taken in.
The point if this oil thing continues that electric etc will increase and more money will be needed for people in hardship, but any ready money has already been given away. 


QuoteAdditionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 

There is no doubt about this. But it suit some people, e.g. contractors, unions etc, no to have good cost control. And a lot of voters like to be able to approach their TD and have them interfere and TDs don't want cost control as much of it is down to their activities.

In general, wages and social benefits in Ireland are pretty decent, but everything is dear. If the government made Ireland 25% dearer than the EU average, instead of 35%, the we would be better off.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Armagh18

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:52:48 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 
But farmers are the least rinsed

How so?
They are a coddled sector. Pay f**k all tax, get reliefs no other industry get, can pass assets around, can get retirement tax relief and keep working etc.
Arrogant bastard.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:52:48 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 
But farmers are the least rinsed

How so?
They are a coddled sector. Pay f**k all tax, get reliefs no other industry get, can pass assets around, can get retirement tax relief and keep working etc.
Arrogant bastard.
Realistic bastard.

Farmers get treated far above their economic output. There are some valid reasons for this, but FFG are generally terrified of them. We saw this with the genuine surprise that the Gardai moved them on.

There is no discussion- they have tax breaks the rest of us don't get. Why do you think so many barristers and captains of industry 'farm' part time?

Rossfan

spokesperson for the Dublin fuel protest has said the demonstrations had surged far beyond what organisers had expected, admitting: "This protest is out of my hands, it escalated to somewhat so big, and I don't know where it's going to end, but it's the Government's fault...."
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2026, 08:02:10 PMspokesperson for the Dublin fuel protest has said the demonstrations had surged far beyond what organisers had expected, admitting: "This protest is out of my hands, it escalated to somewhat so big, and I don't know where it's going to end, but it's the Government's fault...."

the whole conversation was something else - a complete spoofer

https://x.com/NewstalkFM/status/2043694057088524408

rodney trotter


Gabriel_Hurl


Armagh18

Rumours of Gardai being refused service in restaurants in Galway. Maybe one of those bullshit stories but be great if true. Pity on the ordinary decent ones.

Louther

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:45:06 PMRumours of Gardai being refused service in restaurants in Galway. Maybe one of those bullshit stories but be great if true. Pity on the ordinary decent ones.

The story is absolute bullshit..one of those "they all stood and clapped" that those wing nuts fall for and carry on....you those type, like yourself.

Armagh18

Quote from: Louther on April 13, 2026, 09:59:47 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 09:45:06 PMRumours of Gardai being refused service in restaurants in Galway. Maybe one of those bullshit stories but be great if true. Pity on the ordinary decent ones.

The story is absolute bullshit..one of those "they all stood and clapped" that those wing nuts fall for and carry on....you those type, like yourself.
Shame. c***ts should be shunned.

Yet to see a time in history when the police pepper spraying and kicking peaceful protestors on the ground were on the right side of things, maybe this time will be the first...

Armagh18

Danny Healy Rae to make up his mind tomorrow. Rightly calls for dumb and dumber to step aside which is probably all we can hope for.

marty34

Are protests still happening or is that them over now?