Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Genocide Organ]

Also of note :

https://www.ft.com/content/7debcf11-5213-44ac-96ff-f18525bc42b5

According to The Economist, 100,000 Russian troops have been killed in combat in 2025 alone — a roughly five to one ratio of Ukraine's deaths. That is at least six times the Soviet Union's 1980s death toll in Afghanistan — an unpopular war that drained support for Moscow's regime

Something tells me these figures are highly inflated and loaded with spin. Interesting stat. I saw: the Russians have lost 10% more men (est. at 15,500) than last summer, but have halved the amount of men they lost per sq. km. gained (10 v 5). So, basically, they are gaining ground faster, and with fewer losses per mile. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian casualties are reckoned to be 17,000 for the same period. And the Russians have basically taken another important city - Pokrovsk. No great signs this is a hugely unpopular war, either, as far as I can see.

Have you got an alternative source?

In a previous post, but here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDZlUGcDUY

[Banks of the Bann]

Hard to believe too much from the 'legacy media' these days.

Can you post your source for the stats you outlined?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDZlUGcDUY

Yeah, I've come across this Z-simp 'Bro' masquerading as a neutral 'analyst' before. His derision for Ukraine and enthusiasm for Russia is clear.

Disbelieve the 'legacy media' all you like but why you'd unquestioningly accept the output  of some 'Canadian' (lol) YouTuber is beyond me. I think you like what you hear.

What I didn't hear were any sources mentioned for his casualty figures. His -50% Russian casualty rate/km2  is desperate spin for Russia's dismal progress. In fact that whole clip comes across as desperate cope for Russia's progress.

Anyway, my verdict? His analysis is for the BURDZ 

[seafoid]

Also of note :

https://www.ft.com/content/7debcf11-5213-44ac-96ff-f18525bc42b5

According to The Economist, 100,000 Russian troops have been killed in combat in 2025 alone — a roughly five to one ratio of Ukraine's deaths. That is at least six times the Soviet Union's 1980s death toll in Afghanistan — an unpopular war that drained support for Moscow's regime

Something tells me these figures are highly inflated and loaded with spin. Interesting stat. I saw: the Russians have lost 10% more men (est. at 15,500) than last summer, but have halved the amount of men they lost per sq. km. gained (10 v 5). So, basically, they are gaining ground faster, and with fewer losses per mile. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian casualties are reckoned to be 17,000 for the same period. And the Russians have basically taken another important city - Pokrovsk. No great signs this is a hugely unpopular war, either, as far as I can see.

Have you got an alternative source?

In a previous post, but here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViDZlUGcDUY

I watched it. Who is the guy presenting ? First time I have come across him.

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/28/putins-energy-weapon-has-now-come-back-to-bite-him/

But unless Putin is living in a dictator's fantasy world, he must know that his military offensive over the summer failed to break Ukraine's "fortress belt" and that he is running out of money for an endless war of attrition.

Autocratic regimes are notoriously brittle. They can appear rock-solid and then suddenly collapse. But they can also keep going for years, if ruthless enough. To rely too much on the easy solution of a palace coup is to indulge in wishful thinking.

The West is slowly winning. It must hold its nerve and ratchet up the pain. And for heaven's sake, release the $140bn of Russian reserves sitting in Belgium. Specious legal objections have gone on long enough.Putin's energy leverage over the West has evaporated.

The global oil glut is now so big that Trump can embargo Russia's oil production without risking an oil price shock at home. He almost certainly has assurances from Saudi Arabia that it will open the floodgates further if necessary to stabilise the market.

The latest US sanctions are the potent "long-arm" variant that strike economic terror everywhere. They target any shipper, insurer, buyer, or refiner, anywhere in the world, that dares to handle 3m b/d of exports from Lukoil and above all Rosneft, run by Putin's ex-KGB friend Igor Sechin. These are the two big beasts of Russian oil.

The EU has added another 112 tankers from Putin's shadow fleet to its proscribed list. It has pledged to stop buying any further liquefied natural gas from Russia from January 2027, and about time too since the EU currently imports more of Putin's LNG than the rest of the world together



Putin has to know that Ukraine will have enough money to fight on to 2027 or 2028 if need be. It must be made absolutely clear to him that there is no victorious way out of a disaster of his own making.

[DaleCooper]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

[seafoid]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

The loan on the Russian money in Euroclear and the sanctions on Rosneft and Lukoil give Ukraine a fighting chance. I wouldn't be so negative.

[Banks of the Bann]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

Just out of interest, can you provide the link to where you cut and pasted that from?

[jb77]

Google is a useful tool, hope this helps

[Wildweasel74]

Never seen so many know so much about the Ukraine, yet we been nowhere near it. You think we know enough about been bullied into the ground by a bigger neighbour!

[Banks of the Bann]

Google is a useful tool, hope this helps

No it doesn't help. Thanks for your useless input.

Where did you cut and paste from Dale?

[Main Street]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

Just out of interest, can you provide the link to where you cut and pasted that from?

Its an article of his, Roger Boyes, predictable really. Roger leads the way in pushing some aspects of the Kremlin narrative, that their victory is inevitable, Russia is power incorporated etc. etc. therefore further european funding of resistance is futile.

When you read that cr'ap,  dressed with (expensively bought) establishment lipstick, you know the Kremlin is in a bit of bother.

[Banks of the Bann]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

Just out of interest, can you provide the link to where you cut and pasted that from?

Its an article of his, Roger Boyes, predictable really. Roger leads the way in pushing some aspects of the Kremlin narrative, that their victory is inevitable, Russia is power incorporated etc. etc. therefore further european funding of resistance is futile.

When you read that cr'ap,  dressed with (expensively bought) establishment lipstick, you know the Kremlin is in a bit of bother.

Oh, I know all that, I'd just like to see where he cut and pasted it from.

Dale knows why.

[Main Street]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

Just out of interest, can you provide the link to where you cut and pasted that from?

Its an article of his, Roger Boyes, predictable really. Roger leads the way in pushing some aspects of the Kremlin narrative, that their victory is inevitable, Russia is power incorporated etc. etc. therefore further european funding of resistance is futile.

When you read that cr'ap,  dressed with (expensively bought) establishment lipstick, you know the Kremlin is in a bit of bother.

Oh, I know all that, I'd just like to see where he cut and pasted it from.

Dale knows why.

He/it could have cut and pasted it anywhere from a direct Kremlin orifice to a fully paid up English establishment newspaper.
Does it matter from where?

[armaghniac]

Russia still has less of Ukraine than in 2022.
At the present rate of progress they will have occupied Ukraine in 2291 at a cost of 100 million casualties.
They may be able to get the manpower, but they have mostly used up their Soviet stocks of kit, there are a few rusting tanks left, some of which might be made operational, but early in 2026 they will have little left and they are not manufacturing new ones at the same rate as they are losing them.
They Ukrainians have reduced oil production and these refineries used Western parts, and you cannot just phone up Germany and order more.

[Banks of the Bann]

The Times, London [Roger Boyes]

"It is bitter to say, but Kiev will not last until spring. Despite all the encouraging words from the EU, there is simply no money or desire to continue to defend Ukraine.

Like others in the West, I admire the steadfastness of Ukrainians in their long, often inventive struggle against the Russians. However, with the approach of winter, Vladimir Zelensky's chances of holding out are melting before our eyes. Money for weapons, medicine and heat for Ukraine is running out. The Western will to support the conflict is fading. The defense of Kiev as an independent capital is no longer considered a strategic priority.

A different picture may emerge when looking at the rhetoric of European officials — the same von der Leyen calls on Europe to "fight for its values and the right to self—determination" – or at the lively actions at the front and in diplomatic corps. American sanctions are hitting Rosneft and Lukoil, trying to undermine the economic basis of the Putin regime.

But none of the above changes the course of the conflict much"

Just out of interest, can you provide the link to where you cut and pasted that from?

Its an article of his, Roger Boyes, predictable really. Roger leads the way in pushing some aspects of the Kremlin narrative, that their victory is inevitable, Russia is power incorporated etc. etc. therefore further european funding of resistance is futile.

When you read that cr'ap,  dressed with (expensively bought) establishment lipstick, you know the Kremlin is in a bit of bother.

Oh, I know all that, I'd just like to see where he cut and pasted it from.

Dale knows why.

He/it could have cut and pasted it anywhere from a direct Kremlin orifice to a fully paid up English establishment newspaper.
Does it matter from where?

I'm just curious where posters get their news from - i.e. a website that apparently goes to the bother of changing the original text (Kyiv -> Kyiv, Volodymyr -> Vladimir).