Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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Nanderson

If this doesn't go to plan for Putin and he is forced to abandon his plan will he get the death penalty for war crimes or crimes against humanity

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Nanderson on February 26, 2022, 08:33:09 AM
If this doesn't go to plan for Putin and he is forced to abandon his plan will he get the death penalty for war crimes or crimes against humanity

Nothing will happen to Putin. He will be sat in his palace in Russia until he dies which hopefully will be soon as his actions are probably of a dying man lashing out. The Russian people 150- million of them have sat back and let the elite shaft them and steal from them and they have done f@ck all so not likely to start now the cowards

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/25/vladimir-putin-poised-unleash-terrifying-new-weapon-battle-kyiv/

Western officials on Friday briefed their serious concern that Mr Putin would order the deployment of thermobaric weapons, which can reduce cities to rubble and would cause huge loss of life.

Thermobaric missiles contain a highly explosive fuel and chemical mix and send out supersonic blast waves that can rip buildings and bodies apart. Officials said their use would cause "indiscriminate violence".

The Russian Tos-1 Buratino weapons are understood to have crossed into Ukraine, although they have yet to be used. Moscow has previously employed them in Chechnya and Syria.

HiMucker

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 26, 2022, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: Nanderson on February 26, 2022, 08:33:09 AM
If this doesn't go to plan for Putin and he is forced to abandon his plan will he get the death penalty for war crimes or crimes against humanity

Nothing will happen to Putin. He will be sat in his palace in Russia until he dies which hopefully will be soon as his actions are probably of a dying man lashing out. The Russian people 150- million of them have sat back and let the elite shaft them and steal from them and they have done f@ck all so not likely to start now the cowards
Thats not entirely fair. Over the years countless opposition figures and thousands of their supporters have been arrested and jailed. Over the last few days thousands of Russians have been protesting and thousands have been detained. I'd imagine the protests in Russia will crank up a few notches more if the number of casualties are to be believed and the body bags start coming home.

Tubberman

Quote from: HiMucker on February 26, 2022, 09:08:30 AM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 26, 2022, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: Nanderson on February 26, 2022, 08:33:09 AM
If this doesn't go to plan for Putin and he is forced to abandon his plan will he get the death penalty for war crimes or crimes against humanity

Nothing will happen to Putin. He will be sat in his palace in Russia until he dies which hopefully will be soon as his actions are probably of a dying man lashing out. The Russian people 150- million of them have sat back and let the elite shaft them and steal from them and they have done f@ck all so not likely to start now the cowards
Thats not entirely fair. Over the years countless opposition figures and thousands of their supporters have been arrested and jailed. Over the last few days thousands of Russians have been protesting and thousands have been detained. I'd imagine the protests in Russia will crank up a few notches more if the number of casualties are to be believed and the body bags start coming home.

Individuals are taking a massive risk by protesting against the regime. It needs a mass protest or movement that is too large to be thrown into police vans and disappeared for a while.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

RedHand88

How many of the thoughts and prayers Facebook profile picture brigade would accept a hike in diesel prices if it meant sanctions on Russias energy sector?

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/15cfa525-56fd-4fc1-a2c5-fdbdae70533a

Oleksandr Danylyuk, chair of the Kyiv-based Centre for Defence Reforms and an expert on hybrid warfare, said he believed that the Russians had not abandoned the idea of ousting Zelensky in a "false flag" coup.

J70

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 26, 2022, 11:14:06 AM
How many of the thoughts and prayers Facebook profile picture brigade would accept a hike in diesel prices if it meant sanctions on Russias energy sector?

Would you?

I think most people will accept sacrifices have to be made when they see what the Ukrainian people are being out through.

Unless society has gone completely off the edge with the selfish "me first/freedom" shite.

RedHand88

Quote from: J70 on February 26, 2022, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 26, 2022, 11:14:06 AM
How many of the thoughts and prayers Facebook profile picture brigade would accept a hike in diesel prices if it meant sanctions on Russias energy sector?

Would you?

I think most people will accept sacrifices have to be made when they see what the Ukrainian people are being out through.

Unless society has gone completely off the edge with the selfish "me first/freedom" shite.

Yea I probably would, but I can understand why some living month to month couldn't.

Milltown Row2

So where do we stop? What about all the wars going around the world at the minute and the hardships that it brings to people in those countries we don't see on the news
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2022, 02:39:44 PM
So where do we stop? What about all the wars going around the world at the minute and the hardships that it brings to people in those countries we don't see on the news

This is what is irritating me about it all. Why does this one matter more?

PadraicHenryPearse

the hypocrisy of the west is sickening... little or no solidarity with the people of Iraq, Palestine, Yemen and Syria to name a few...

Palestinians and athletes who support them told not to mix politics and sports but we have Poland not playing Russia In soccer, finals moved.. in the arts Swan Lake cancelled and Russia out of the eurovision... within days...

where is the weapons, financial support and sanctions to help the palestinans.... they are labeled terrorists while the Ukrainians are hero's... Uk/US/Australia actively trying to prevent  BDS

the media are playing their part too in echoing the government on the West hypocrisy... look at how bombs being fired by the US in Iraq were described compared to similar weaponry being fired by the Russians in Ukraine...

None of that takes away from how wrong Putin and Russia are but its hardly a surprise  to see putin tey his luck when they see what the US/UK /Saudi/Israelis have been getting away with for years...

Irish government moving very fast to sanctions but the occupied territories bill is stalled...

Armagh18

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 26, 2022, 03:40:42 PM
the hypocrisy of the west is sickening... little or no solidarity with the people of Iraq, Palestine, Yemen and Syria to name a few...

Palestinians and athletes who support them told not to mix politics and sports but we have Poland not playing Russia In soccer, finals moved.. in the arts Swan Lake cancelled and Russia out of the eurovision... within days...

where is the weapons, financial support and sanctions to help the palestinans.... they are labeled terrorists while the Ukrainians are hero's... Uk/US/Australia actively trying to prevent  BDS

the media are playing their part too in echoing the government on the West hypocrisy... look at how bombs being fired by the US in Iraq were described compared to similar weaponry being fired by the Russians in Ukraine...

None of that takes away from how wrong Putin and Russia are but its hardly a surprise  to see putin tey his luck when they see what the US/UK /Saudi/Israelis have been getting away with for years...

Irish government moving very fast to sanctions but the occupied territories bill is stalled...
Absolutely. What Putin is doing is absolutely terrible but vanilla enough compared to whats been happening in Palestine and Yemen.

Wildweasel74

So much whataboutery that you's get a job in the Dup.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2022, 03:58:08 PM
So much whataboutery that you's get a job in the Dup.

if occupation is wrong it I'd as wrong in Ukraine as it is anywhere else..

if the answer to occupation is sanctions, financial and military support then  its should be the answer everywhere...

these are the same issues not different issues but the response is very different.