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Hurling 2022
« on: January 17, 2022, 02:42:55 PM »
Paddy Power odds.

Limerick 8/13

Galway 8/1

Waterford 9/1

Cork 9/1

Tipperary 9/1

Kilkenny 11/1

Clare 20/1

Wexford 33/1

Dublin 66/1

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2022, 02:44:17 PM »
Where will Limerick's biggest threat come from?
I'd be wary of Waterford for some reason.

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2022, 03:45:36 PM »
Where will Limerick's biggest threat come from?
I'd be wary of Waterford for some reason.

I'd be inclined to agree, but they'd be better holding off till an AI final or semi-final as you'll only catch Limerick cold once, so might as well make it a knockout blow.


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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2022, 05:35:48 PM »
Letís see how Cork go again, if they have developed or grown since last year.

Waterford if they work on team play rather than the off the cuff stuff they seem to play

Kilkenny will still give teams a rattle

Tipp, who knows?

Galway will need a couple of seasons to bed in the new manager
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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2022, 09:01:45 PM »
Cork have lost a few very good players and will probably struggle. They do have a lot of good youth coming through though so maybe in a few years will step up. If you took Patrick Horgan out theyíd really struggle.

Kk must surely drop off - what age is tj now? Colin fennelly retiring also a blow.

Tipp will be interesting. I think they may be coming close to hitting a transitional period (though maybe are just shy of it )Surely the likes of callinan and Pauline Maher canít go on forever?

Galway are a lottery.

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 08:14:35 AM »
Cork have lost a few very good players and will probably struggle. They do have a lot of good youth coming through though so maybe in a few years will step up. If you took Patrick Horgan out theyíd really struggle.

Kk must surely drop off - what age is tj now? Colin fennelly retiring also a blow.

Tipp will be interesting. I think they may be coming close to hitting a transitional period (though maybe are just shy of it )Surely the likes of callinan and Pauline Maher canít go on forever?

Galway are a lottery.

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2022, 08:35:59 AM »
Cork have lost a few very good players and will probably struggle. They do have a lot of good youth coming through though so maybe in a few years will step up. If you took Patrick Horgan out theyíd really struggle.

Kk must surely drop off - what age is tj now? Colin fennelly retiring also a blow.

Tipp will be interesting. I think they may be coming close to hitting a transitional period (though maybe are just shy of it )Surely the likes of callinan and Pauline Maher canít go on forever?

Galway are a lottery.

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2022, 11:11:07 AM »
Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 01:01:24 PM »
Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Letís see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasnít played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in
« Last Edit: January 18, 2022, 01:07:33 PM by tippmaninlaois »

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2022, 02:15:40 PM »
Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Letís see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasnít played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in

WRT the Munster final, Tipp did indeed bypass the middle third, went long, by passing the Limerick halfback line with Seamy Callinan flicking the ball down to the runners coming through and enjoyed a lot of scores off that process UNTIL Dan Morrisey was brought into the fray at the expense of Richie English. That turned the game round for Limerick and from then on they turned the screw in a serious way that Tipp couldn't cope with.
Yes, Guillane should have got a red for slapping Barrett, it was a red every day of the week, except in a Munster final it seems. I still think Limerick would have went on for the win but we'll never know.

Squad wise with the condensed championship we have now I'd say Limerick are better placed than most to cope with a few injuries along the way. They've a very settled 20 or so lads will plenty of championship experience and whilst they got beat by Cork in last years U20's they were nip and tuck the whole way so they've more to come and I think some were blooded the weekend past vrs Kerry with Clare to come.

They're better placed than most to deal with a tight schedule but obviously everyone will be hoping key personnel avoid anything serious.



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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2022, 06:59:23 PM »
Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Letís see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasnít played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in

WRT the Munster final, Tipp did indeed bypass the middle third, went long, by passing the Limerick halfback line with Seamy Callinan flicking the ball down to the runners coming through and enjoyed a lot of scores off that process UNTIL Dan Morrisey was brought into the fray at the expense of Richie English. That turned the game round for Limerick and from then on they turned the screw in a serious way that Tipp couldn't cope with.
Yes, Guillane should have got a red for slapping Barrett, it was a red every day of the week, except in a Munster final it seems. I still think Limerick would have went on for the win but we'll never know.

Squad wise with the condensed championship we have now I'd say Limerick are better placed than most to cope with a few injuries along the way. They've a very settled 20 or so lads will plenty of championship experience and whilst they got beat by Cork in last years U20's they were nip and tuck the whole way so they've more to come and I think some were blooded the weekend past vrs Kerry with Clare to come.

They're better placed than most to deal with a tight schedule but obviously everyone will be hoping key personnel avoid anything serious.

It was Jason Forde not Callinan that did the damage in the first half of that Munster final against Limerick

He roved around the 40 and was given free reign.

The first 4/5 minutes of the second half was when the tide really turned

The Limerick forwards upped their work rate and stopped the tipp backs hitting accurate ball out of defence

Limerick have been using the same 17 odd hurlers for the last 2 all irelands

Itís going to be fascinating to find who else they have in a no holds barred compressed Munster championship

Any 3 from the 5 could come out of it and a good start is vital

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2022, 09:01:11 PM »
Tipp had a good start and failed when it mattered!

Teams used to go toe to toe with Kilkenny back in the day, it was the last ten minutes when the dust settled that Kilkenny tagged on a goal and 4 or 5 points that won it for them.
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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2022, 10:30:05 PM »
Tipp had a good start and failed when it mattered!

Teams used to go toe to toe with Kilkenny back in the day, it was the last ten minutes when the dust settled that Kilkenny tagged on a goal and 4 or 5 points that won it for them.

That must News to the likes of Waterford in the 08 All ireland final where they buried them in the first 5 minutes

Kilkenny went for the jugular early on in a lot of games

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2022, 10:11:10 AM »
Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Letís see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasnít played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in

WRT the Munster final, Tipp did indeed bypass the middle third, went long, by passing the Limerick halfback line with Seamy Callinan flicking the ball down to the runners coming through and enjoyed a lot of scores off that process UNTIL Dan Morrisey was brought into the fray at the expense of Richie English. That turned the game round for Limerick and from then on they turned the screw in a serious way that Tipp couldn't cope with.
Yes, Guillane should have got a red for slapping Barrett, it was a red every day of the week, except in a Munster final it seems. I still think Limerick would have went on for the win but we'll never know.

Squad wise with the condensed championship we have now I'd say Limerick are better placed than most to cope with a few injuries along the way. They've a very settled 20 or so lads will plenty of championship experience and whilst they got beat by Cork in last years U20's they were nip and tuck the whole way so they've more to come and I think some were blooded the weekend past vrs Kerry with Clare to come.

They're better placed than most to deal with a tight schedule but obviously everyone will be hoping key personnel avoid anything serious.

It was Jason Forde not Callinan that did the damage in the first half of that Munster final against Limerick

He roved around the 40 and was given free reign.

The first 4/5 minutes of the second half was when the tide really turned

The Limerick forwards upped their work rate and stopped the tipp backs hitting accurate ball out of defence

Limerick have been using the same 17 odd hurlers for the last 2 all irelands

Itís going to be fascinating to find who else they have in a no holds barred compressed Munster championship

Any 3 from the 5 could come out of it and a good start is vital

Callinan was the one knocking the balls down for Forde and the runners coming through. The two goals came from high balls in knocked down by Callinan to runners off his shoulder IIRC.
Limerick are probably the best at changing tactics during the game, and use the water breaks very effectively which I'd like to see the end off.

 

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Re: Hurling 2022
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2022, 02:11:28 PM »
After a disastrous start Síniel have played their way back into this battle.

Gunner are releasing the ball before the tackles into space, theyíve that bitta extra skill and for the moment matching Sínielís intensity..

Rodgers is some pup all the same

Some shot and save during that first half. If Síneil are within one score with 5 to go theyíll have a good chance, discipline will win or lose this game, threatening to boil over
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