Sarah Everard/Women’s safety

Started by general_lee, March 11, 2021, 07:21:32 PM

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imtommygunn

It does make you wonder how they haven't been able to find more in that Noah Donohue case.

This case is horrendous  >:(

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: nrico2006 on March 13, 2021, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on March 13, 2021, 06:44:42 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/13/police-officer-charged-sarah-everard-murder-appears-court/

The body of Sarah Everard was identified through her dental records after her remains were found inside a builder's bag, it emerged in court.
Grim.

Had he burnt the body to hinder identification?  Why the need to use dental records?

Was wondering what happened the body myself.  To carry out a murder is going to get harder and harder with the advances of technology - everybody has mobile phones, all cars will eventually have dash cams, doorbells have cameras and CCTV coverage is increasing.  Add in the fact that your phone and car both potentially have GPS, means that you are going to have to be very smart or very lucky to get away with murder.  I heard that the key evidence that led the police to Couzens was the CCTV of a bus I never even thought of as having a camera.

Good call. Saw headline of article on the twitter, didnt overly read it, about how the serial killer is a thing of the past, due to all the above, and although im sure theyre still about its def gettin harder for them as you say.
Be interesting to see if yer man Couzens was one....

Kidder81

Yet man Couzens was obviously off the rails, didn't he indecently expose himself in a McDonalds a few days before abducting Sarah Everard?

Think when it's in them they aren't too concerned about CCTV and getting caught

Armagh18

Disgusting scenes last night. I've said it before and I'll say it again- police are the absolute lowest of the low.

Milltown Row2

How do you police a banned gathering?

Before you jump in, how this police force dealt with it was atrocious.
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bennydorano

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2021, 11:52:09 AM
How do you police a banned gathering?

Before you jump in, how this police force dealt with it was atrocious.
True, that's the narrative that will come to the fore in the coming days as well after the initial disgust at the Police subsides. You're in lockdown or you're not, exceptionalism creates mixed messages.

general_lee

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2021, 11:52:09 AM
How do you police a banned gathering?

Before you jump in, how this police force dealt with it was atrocious.
Ideally the same way they 'policed' the Shankill/George Sq in Glasgow ie an escort or in the case of the Shankill road just pretend it's happening altogether

JPGJOHNNYG

It's a bit like the psni mess up on the ormeau road. Difference being that was friends and family of the victims. Don't know who all these people in London are.

pbat

Quote from: Kidder81 on March 13, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Yet man Couzens was obviously off the rails, didn't he indecently expose himself in a McDonalds a few days before abducting Sarah Everard?

Think when it's in them they aren't too concerned about CCTV and getting caught

Chatting to my sister yesterday about this case, she's in the psychology business. While by no means trying to make any excuses for this murder she was pointing out if Couzen's had 20+ years police service with no issues and no criminal record should the MET not have taken the indecent exposure case a lot more serious, has this guy went completely off the rails and if proper psychological assessment been carried out would he have been getting the help needed instead of committing murder. Will be a lot of questions when his trial comes up.

nrico2006

Quote from: pbat on March 14, 2021, 01:39:37 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 13, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Yet man Couzens was obviously off the rails, didn't he indecently expose himself in a McDonalds a few days before abducting Sarah Everard?

Think when it's in them they aren't too concerned about CCTV and getting caught

Chatting to my sister yesterday about this case, she's in the psychology business. While by no means trying to make any excuses for this murder she was pointing out if Couzen's had 20+ years police service with no issues and no criminal record should the MET not have taken the indecent exposure case a lot more serious, has this guy went completely off the rails and if proper psychological assessment been carried out would he have been getting the help needed instead of committing murder. Will be a lot of questions when his trial comes up.

Don't think he was in the police that long, he was a mechanic until joining the police around 10 years ago.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Sheedy

Quote from: nrico2006 on March 14, 2021, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: pbat on March 14, 2021, 01:39:37 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 13, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Yet man Couzens was obviously off the rails, didn't he indecently expose himself in a McDonalds a few days before abducting Sarah Everard?

Think when it's in them they aren't too concerned about CCTV and getting caught

Chatting to my sister yesterday about this case, she's in the psychology business. While by no means trying to make any excuses for this murder she was pointing out if Couzen's had 20+ years police service with no issues and no criminal record should the MET not have taken the indecent exposure case a lot more serious, has this guy went completely off the rails and if proper psychological assessment been carried out would he have been getting the help needed instead of committing murder. Will be a lot of questions when his trial comes up.

Don't think he was in the police that long, he was a mechanic until joining the police around 10 years ago.
he only joined the met police in 2018
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Tubberman

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 14, 2021, 11:17:32 AM
Disgusting scenes last night. I've said it before and I'll say it again- police are the absolute lowest of the low.

I'd say rapists, murderers, thieves, and many more would be much lower. You know, criminals like...
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

That vigil was stupid in the circumstances. The police response even more stupid.

nrico2006

Quote from: SHEEDY on March 14, 2021, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 14, 2021, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: pbat on March 14, 2021, 01:39:37 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 13, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Yet man Couzens was obviously off the rails, didn't he indecently expose himself in a McDonalds a few days before abducting Sarah Everard?

Think when it's in them they aren't too concerned about CCTV and getting caught

Chatting to my sister yesterday about this case, she's in the psychology business. While by no means trying to make any excuses for this murder she was pointing out if Couzen's had 20+ years police service with no issues and no criminal record should the MET not have taken the indecent exposure case a lot more serious, has this guy went completely off the rails and if proper psychological assessment been carried out would he have been getting the help needed instead of committing murder. Will be a lot of questions when his trial comes up.

Don't think he was in the police that long, he was a mechanic until joining the police around 10 years ago.
he only joined the met police in 2018

Aye, think he was only a cop for ten years in total.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

seafoid

#59
What is really striking about this apart from the murder is the female reaction. The police are on the back foot following Saturday's heavy handedness. The politicians are trying to keep up with the public.