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Armagh18

Quote from: The Trap on November 30, 2024, 06:14:50 PMWhat people think will happen.
Goalie will blast the ball down the middle.
Big midfielder will catch it and launch it into 3 v 3.
They will win it and score.
And repeat all game.

This will happen occasionally just as it does now (as for Cuala just now).

What will happen a lot.

Teams will be wrecked after 10 mins initially (this will change quickly as they learn to conserve energy) and thereafter there will be loads of slow play and then play for 2 point shots.

Players will never be able to play the way new rules want them to for 70 to 80 mins. There is no sport like this new game even in professional sports.

Teams will still drop off kick outs to the half way line with the front 3 right on the half way line, especially against the wind, or a lesser team, to keep the score down.

Referees will be really tested at times and there are only a few in each county up to officiating games physically and technically on their own. Can forsee Referees being the first to throw their cards in.
Spot on. Very little wrong with the game as it is.

The only way you could play a game like that for the full 70 is allow unlimited rolling subs, which would only serve to benefit bigger teams and lead to more tankings.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 30, 2024, 05:18:18 PMMaybe 1 or 2 changes would have been ok, but this is now a different sport.

Hope to see a few county boards stick the middle finger up and keep the old rules.

HQ didn't like little Armagh winning the All Ireland.  They weren't in any rush to make such "radical" changes when Dublin was in the middle of winning 6 in a row.

Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 30, 2024, 06:19:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 30, 2024, 05:18:18 PMMaybe 1 or 2 changes would have been ok, but this is now a different sport.

Hope to see a few county boards stick the middle finger up and keep the old rules.

HQ didn't like little Armagh winning the All Ireland.  They weren't in any rush to make such "radical" changes when Dublin was in the middle of winning 6 in a row.
Lol.

Rian and the boys well able to kick points from 40 yards so we'll not worry. Actually think with our fitness levels and bench impact it'll suit Armagh.

It's the club game that this will f**k!

Mikhailov

The biggest issue I have with the GAA at the minute is the vast difference in how football & hurling is refereed.
Hurling basically lets it all go, all players expect this and get on with it
Football depends on the ref interpretation and there is a massive difference between some refs.
Plenty of the recent games (County finals, Ulster club, cuala tonight) have been good games because the referee let a lot go. No petty decisions and let the players get on with it. Another factor is that the games are of a good standard because the teams are of the same level - if the GAA would sort that out it would help rather than mass rule changes it may solve the issues.
The 1v1 at the throw in is laughable - changing it because of the jostling at the start of the game is suggested as a reason. Have they not watched hurling starts recently - the ball is thrown in amidst a wrestling match - which everyone accepts as part of the game and enjoys it.
Jim Gavin wasn't suggesting it or getting involved in any discussions over rule changes when his Dublin team were totally dominant.
There will be some hammerings in games now going forward and will only get worse.
Every player will want to be a keeper now

AustinPowers

It's the end of  the game as we know it, and things will never  be the same again

But that's  only REM and Mel C's opinions.

I honestly think its  like a dark cloud has descended on Gaelic football. The  game as a spectacle wasn't perfect, but this  is like a totally different  game  now. This could get very ugly......

The Trap

Jarlath, the FRC and their influential friends have won the day but will they win the war?

balladmaker

#591
Anyone know how to draw that 40m arc on the field without making a balls of it  ;D

thewobbler

Quote from: balladmaker on November 30, 2024, 10:03:59 PMAnyone know how to draw that 40m arch on the field without making a balls of it  ;D

It'll be an imaginary line for most people anyhow. They'll imagine their players always kick from just outside it, but their opponents from just inside it.

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As an aside I'm going to harbour a guess (in the absence of knowledge) that they're going to have to use the planted foot for the "mark" in borderline cases. I'm thinking of someone with an elongated kicking style - like Clifford - where on occasion the action of kicking the point might see the ball (and his kicking foot) cross the line. So the kick takes place outside the arc, but the ball is inside the arc before being released. Anyone know?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: balladmaker on November 30, 2024, 10:03:59 PMAnyone know how to draw that 40m arch on the field without making a balls of it  ;D

Try drawing it in March/April

Let's see how it looks on some big of a pitch
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JoG2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2024, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on November 30, 2024, 10:03:59 PMAnyone know how to draw that 40m arch on the field without making a balls of it  ;D

Try drawing it in March/April

Let's see how it looks on some big of a pitch

I'd say drone footage of a few arcs would be worth the watch  ;D

So football was sh1te, unwatchable, people were staying away in their droves, but now with the new rules coming in, and before a ball is thrown in (bar sandbox) we're harking back to the halcyon days of the blanket?

Truthsayer

Quote from: The Trap on November 30, 2024, 09:52:19 PMJarlath, the FRC and their influential friends have won the day but will they win the war?

You do know it was voted through by all the counties?   :D

The Trap

Let's see how it works out at all levels. Will be an interesting year.....

johnnycool

Quote from: The Trap on November 30, 2024, 11:07:07 PMLet's see how it works out at all levels. Will be an interesting year.....

Allegedly it was trialed during an "end of season" club competition in Meath and both the referee and players adapted pretty quickly to the new rules.

As for the D...

None of you lads do any trigonometry at school?

If you lads think everyone funneling back inside their own 45 every time the opposition gets possession only to hand pass it laterally for an eternity is a good watch, then that's up to you, but Gavin's remit was to come up with a set of rules that made the game enjoyable to watch and also to play.



Truthsayer

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Quote from: johnnycool on December 02, 2024, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: The Trap on November 30, 2024, 11:07:07 PMLet's see how it works out at all levels. Will be an interesting year.....

Allegedly it was trialed during an "end of season" club competition in Meath and both the referee and players adapted pretty quickly to the new rules.

As for the D...

None of you lads do any trigonometry at school?

If you lads think everyone funneling back inside their own 45 every time the opposition gets possession only to hand pass it laterally for an eternity is a good watch, then that's up to you, but Gavin's remit was to come up with a set of rules that made the game enjoyable to watch and also to play.



Agreed. Was also trialled in Gervaghy and went well.  Am surprised at the negativity here considering the dirge we've had to watch in recent years. Opposition to change seems to be a default position here. I rem same to frees and sideline balls out of the hands and no more handpassed goals now we cudnt imagine it like that.
 Great to see this effort made to save Gaelic football.

clonian

Quote from: johnnycool on December 02, 2024, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: The Trap on November 30, 2024, 11:07:07 PMLet's see how it works out at all levels. Will be an interesting year.....

Allegedly it was trialed during an "end of season" club competition in Meath and both the referee and players adapted pretty quickly to the new rules.

As for the D...

None of you lads do any trigonometry at school?

If you lads think everyone funneling back inside their own 45 every time the opposition gets possession only to hand pass it laterally for an eternity is a good watch, then that's up to you, but Gavin's remit was to come up with a set of rules that made the game enjoyable to watch and also to play.




I watched 2 schools matches at u14.5 level in the last couple of weeks and if anything convinced me that something has to change it was that. Lads that play good football for their clubs are playing keep ball and 14 men behind the ball for most of the match.

It'll not all work but something has to change.