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Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« Reply #195 on: November 22, 2020, 12:59:22 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.
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« Reply #196 on: November 22, 2020, 01:01:17 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.

How?

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« Reply #197 on: November 22, 2020, 01:33:31 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.

How?

How is right? Less money,  less resources,  less population. But other teams are to blame. Only Dublin competes with other sports so they need all the money.

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« Reply #198 on: November 22, 2020, 02:22:21 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.

How?

How is right? Less money,  less resources,  less population. But other teams are to blame. Only Dublin competes with other sports so they need all the money.

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« Reply #199 on: November 22, 2020, 02:27:52 AM »
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes itís probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.
 
Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. Thereís no point to it anymore.

The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

"the greatest ever team" is fine if its the same 15- 20 lads. The team that started today had 6 starters from the team that started the 2015 AI final. Id say if you started with the 2011 team you've probably already got close to 15 all time greats. I don't think anyone has issue with the players - they're class, but when the conveyor belt churns out 2-3 all-timers every year how can any team compete?

This is the difference between modern Dublin and the great teams of the past.

Those great teams had shelf lives. They were mortal. Their players got old, pissed off into the sunset, and other counties had their turn at winning things. There was a natural cycle.

Now Dublin are immortal. They continually regenerate, and every incarnation just reaches further ahead of the pack. There is no hope that time and old age will come to the rescue of the rest of the country.

This is an unprecedented crisis in the history of the GAA. Belief has evaporated in all but a couple of counties. The All Ireland championship is functionally dead as a competition.

We can't keep our heads in the sand with delusional arguments that it would all be fine if only everyone else just 'tried harder'. It's long past time for a grown up discussion about what happens next. There will be no coming back from this if real solutions are not pursued, and very soon.

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« Reply #200 on: November 22, 2020, 02:37:33 AM »
there still hopes for donegal.

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« Reply #201 on: November 22, 2020, 02:45:00 AM »
I'm no Dub but I'm sure there wasn't this much of a meltdown when Kerry cleaned up back in the day.
As a few lads have already mentioned, they have 15 players like every other team. It's up for the others to raise their game.
It's not professional football where they can buy the best players, they just have them at the minute. Their dominance won't last forever just like Kerry's didn't.
I'm not arsed whether they lose or not any time soon. They are an absolute juggernaut of a team that play attractive attacking football that is good to watch, the way the game should be played, against dire defensive shyte this weather.
Whether or not their dominance is good for the championship i'm not getting into, but thank god for the dubs for the way they play and entertain.
I'd expect a good few to crawl off the Donegal bandwagon after that.

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« Reply #202 on: November 22, 2020, 07:03:21 AM »
I'm no Dub but I'm sure there wasn't this much of a meltdown when Kerry cleaned up back in the day.
As a few lads have already mentioned, they have 15 players like every other team. It's up for the others to raise their game.
It's not professional football where they can buy the best players, they just have them at the minute. Their dominance won't last forever just like Kerry's didn't.
I'm not arsed whether they lose or not any time soon. They are an absolute juggernaut of a team that play attractive attacking football that is good to watch, the way the game should be played, against dire defensive shyte this weather.
Whether or not their dominance is good for the championship i'm not getting into, but thank god for the dubs for the way they play and entertain.
I'd expect a good few to crawl off the Donegal bandwagon after that.
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« Reply #203 on: November 22, 2020, 07:44:10 AM »
I'm no Dub but I'm sure there wasn't this much of a meltdown when Kerry cleaned up back in the day.
As a few lads have already mentioned, they have 15 players like every other team. It's up for the others to raise their game.
It's not professional football where they can buy the best players, they just have them at the minute. Their dominance won't last forever just like Kerry's didn't.
I'm not arsed whether they lose or not any time soon. They are an absolute juggernaut of a team that play attractive attacking football that is good to watch, the way the game should be played, against dire defensive shyte this weather.
Whether or not their dominance is good for the championship i'm not getting into, but thank god for the dubs for the way they play and entertain.
I'd expect a good few to crawl off the Donegal bandwagon after that.
Iíd agree with that but just want to mention that the Dubs can do the defensive shite too. Had 14 or 15 behind the ball plenty last night. But I suppose when youíre kicking 3-21 it doesnt really matter.

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« Reply #204 on: November 22, 2020, 07:44:33 AM »
Westmeath and Laois had the gall to win Leinster titles. The GAA wanted to boost Dublin but they failed to design any metrics to indicate to them when it might be time to stop.

Permanent war against soccer and rugby is not plausible unless the Dublin co board invest a new sport and give us back the All Ireland.

The amateur inter county system turned out to be too weak to support the Dubs unbound.


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« Reply #205 on: November 22, 2020, 07:50:59 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.

Its not Dublins problem but there is a huge knock on effect because of their success. Other counties are not getting their best 15 out on the pitch because they cannot get lads to commit to the 4 or 5 nights  a week it takes to just match  what Dublin are doing.

When Eamonn Burns (rip) took over down a few years ago, there were reports of up to 30 lads who refused invites to join the county panel. Players are now considering is it worth the effort without any chance of success, others might commit for 2 or 3 years when in the past the same player might have played for ten years.

I think its a huge issue for the gaa and if the likes of me are getting fed up with county football then there are repercussions coming down the line.

Even before covid-19 the attendances especially in leinster where down alarmingly. Its only a matter of time before the viewing figures drop too and the TV companies will respond accordingly when bidding for rights.

I don't know the solution, I wouldn't be in favour of splitting Dublin but the championship which I would have watched religiously every weekend, rarely missed down games etc is becoming farcical.

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« Reply #206 on: November 22, 2020, 08:53:23 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.
Starting with Antrim, with the largest "GAA minded" population in Ulster stepping up from being 9th best team in Ulster.
Then we can make those lazy hoors of Volunteers in Laythrum, Longford etc get off their bums and magic up a superteam from their 3,000 or so registered players to match the team Dublin have got from their 39,000.
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« Reply #207 on: November 22, 2020, 08:59:12 AM »
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes itís probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.
 
Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. Thereís no point to it anymore.

The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

"the greatest ever team" is fine if its the same 15- 20 lads. The team that started today had 6 starters from the team that started the 2015 AI final. Id say if you started with the 2011 team you've probably already got close to 15 all time greats. I don't think anyone has issue with the players - they're class, but when the conveyor belt churns out 2-3 all-timers every year how can any team compete?

Which 2-3 all timers has it churned out this year

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« Reply #208 on: November 22, 2020, 09:00:08 AM »
Thatís not Dublinís problem. Other teams need to step up.

How?

How is right? Less money,  less resources,  less population. But other teams are to blame. Only Dublin competes with other sports so they need all the money.

They've always had a bigger population, they just got their act together
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« Reply #209 on: November 22, 2020, 09:03:37 AM »
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes itís probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.
 
Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. Thereís no point to it anymore.

The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

"the greatest ever team" is fine if its the same 15- 20 lads. The team that started today had 6 starters from the team that started the 2015 AI final. Id say if you started with the 2011 team you've probably already got close to 15 all time greats. I don't think anyone has issue with the players - they're class, but when the conveyor belt churns out 2-3 all-timers every year how can any team compete?

This is the difference between modern Dublin and the great teams of the past.

Those great teams had shelf lives. They were mortal. Their players got old, pissed off into the sunset, and other counties had their turn at winning things. There was a natural cycle.

Now Dublin are immortal. They continually regenerate, and every incarnation just reaches further ahead of the pack. There is no hope that time and old age will come to the rescue of the rest of the country.

This is an unprecedented crisis in the history of the GAA. Belief has evaporated in all but a couple of counties. The All Ireland championship is functionally dead as a competition.

We can't keep our heads in the sand with delusional arguments that it would all be fine if only everyone else just 'tried harder'. It's long past time for a grown up discussion about what happens next. There will be no coming back from this if real solutions are not pursued, and very soon.

Yes, even that great Kerry team came to a spectacular end. Teams knew if they hung around long enough, theyíd get their day in the sun. And so it proved.

Only Kerry, Mayo, and maybe Donegal/Tyrone, are within a hounds gowl of winning Sam. Everyone else has either given up, and will give up. That includes players, fans, sponsors, and CBís pumping money into a pointless exercise.

Super 8 crowds were noticeably down after 1 year. Dressing up the championship in different formats is a waste of time. County football is dead.