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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #555 on: November 18, 2020, 04:41:07 PM »
No disrespect to cavan but I'd say the donegal management team will have one eye on the semi final already. They'll churn out the usual lines, one game at a time, cavan will be tough etc etc but realistically the dubs are on the horizon. Think I'm correct in that it's ulster v Leinster this year?

It is disrespect to think like that and I really hope  that they are thinking like that.

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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #556 on: November 18, 2020, 04:55:56 PM »
No disrespect to cavan but I'd say the donegal management team will have one eye on the semi final already. They'll churn out the usual lines, one game at a time, cavan will be tough etc etc but realistically the dubs are on the horizon. Think I'm correct in that it's ulster v Leinster this year?

It is disrespect to think like that and I really hope  that they are thinking like that.

They didn’t think like that against Armagh. They didn’t in last year’s final.

All Bonner has to say is “Cork!”.

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« Reply #557 on: November 18, 2020, 06:27:32 PM »
I will be the first to applaud you Itchy if you are competitive against Donegal. As I say I dont think Cavan are a bad team, but I think Donegal are 20 - 30% better than last year which is a large amount. Yes J70, Mayo did put you to the sword easily that night in Castlebar, but you were a very tired team....peaking in May to beat Tyrone, again in Ulster final six weeks later, again versus Kerry drawing in Croke Park and I had a feeling you would go out like a light the way you did.

This year....fresh, hungry, four or five new players, Rochford in and playing with a real swagger.

I think they could go all the way, honestly.

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« Reply #558 on: November 18, 2020, 08:36:11 PM »
There's a number of reasons Donegal are being tipped to beat Dublin.

They were actually flying it up until the Mayo game last year. A lot of their big men didn't perform but it's also worth noting the injury problems, Ban Gallagher is a huge player for them, Neil McGee is still a vital cog and he was also missing. They lost J McGee in midfield early due to injury, think McGonagle missed the Championship last year and Paddy McGrath also picked up a bad injury in that game. And it's Mayo in Castlebar in a knockout game and Mayo were terrific.

They are advancing well Donegal, you look at Mogan this year who has been superb, McGonagle in midfield has been great. Langan, Niall O'Donnell and Thompson have all come on leaps and bounds. A semi-final with Dublin will be the big test. Donegal did have two important games against Tyrone since the resumption that both sides needed a win in and Donegal won both matches. The routinely swatted aside Armagh at the weekend and they're doing this with Murphy and McHugh being relatively quiet. For the first time in a while Donegal look like they are actually more than a Murphy and McHugh double act.

Then there's the other side of the coin - Dublin. We still have questions, new manager, unsettled team and possibly undercooked, no McCaffrey, winter football though Croke Park still plays well but Dublin were iffy enough in the league in what will be similar conditions. I saw bits and pieces of the two games, Howard is on the bench, so is Mannion. I don't think Fenton is going that well and McCarthy has been quiet enough. I think Meath could actually give them a right go but we'll see. Bar Kilkenny and Bugler so far I haven't really seen too many of those Dublin players look at their best and you could find the hunger may not be there this year with the strange atmosphere about the Championship.

I certainly don't think anyone from the pack has as good a chance at an All Ireland as there is this year.


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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #559 on: November 18, 2020, 09:00:05 PM »
Everyone jumping on the Donegal hype train bandwagon, that's all it is.
Dublin are still the team to beat.

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« Reply #560 on: November 18, 2020, 09:43:02 PM »
I think every year (for the last few), people have been dying to think that there's a team that'll put it up to the Dubs. There's a desperation there; a hope that the Championship isn't inevitable. With Kerry gone, people are turning to Donegal and Mayo, and of course, the column inches still have to be written.

IMO we don't deserve to be talken about as challengers to the Dubs. We've shite the bed the last 2 years when the pressure came on, and suddenly we're going to beat what is probably the greatest Gaeic Football team ever?

Cavan will give us a right rattle in the Ulster final. I'll be shocked and incredibly disappointed if we don't win it (no offence to the Cavan Gaels) but it's not a foregone conclusion.

We're a good team; probably as skillful a bunch as I've ever seen line out for us, but I don't think we are the great hope that the country is waiting for.

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« Reply #561 on: November 19, 2020, 02:57:52 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/cavan-s-mickey-graham-this-is-100-per-cent-bonus-territory-for-us-1.4412841

Cavan’s Mickey Graham: ‘This is 100 per cent bonus territory for us’
Donegal to provide daunting challenge in Sunday’s Ulster SFC Final
about 9 hours ago Updated: about 3 hours ago
 
Ian O'Riordan

 
Mickey Graham has already earned a subtle reputation for orchestrating minor miracles on the football field, and he sounds well pleased with the latest one.
With the score, the odds, the incentive and whatever else stacked against them, his Cavan team came from 1-9 to 0-2 behind, just before half-time, to beat Down by a single point in last Sunday’s Ulster football semi-final. No one and everyone can say they saw it coming.
Because this sort of hide-and-seek tactic has served Graham particularly well, as long as it works of course. Cavan produced a similarly spirited comeback to beat Monaghan in the Ulster preliminary round, when no one saw them being beaten, and they also took the second half of their semi-final win over Antrim by the scruff of the neck.
“In fairness the lads just had a wee chat amongst themselves,” says Graham. “There was no panic, they just realised they weren’t doing a lot of things they should have been doing, were letting themselves down. As a management team we just said if this is our last 35, 40 minutes of the year, let’s just play with some pride, really go for it. When you’ve nothing to lose, it’s knockout football, let’s have no regrets.
“We threw some caution to the wind, made some adjustments and pushed a few lads up the field. Sometimes those things don’t pay off, and this was just one of those days it just about worked.”
Pádraig Faulkner, Thomas Galligan and half-time replacement Conor Madden were all immense, Cavan also pinching 10 of Down’s 12 kick-outs as they pressed ever higher. A small part of this minor miracle is that it landed Cavan in back-to-back Ulster football finals for the first time since 1969.
•   Cavan into Ulster final after stunning Down comeback
•   GAA Statistics: Mayo’s midfield gamble paying off – so far
•   Shanahan impressed with Cahill’s impact on a resurgent Waterford
Last year, when they also faced off against Donegal, it was their first final appearance since 2001, when Graham came off the bench in the narrow defeat to Tyrone. They haven’t won the Ulster title since 1997, Graham also part of that team, and it’s come after two successive relegations in the league, to Division 2 last year, more recently to Division 3.
 Cavan players celebrate the Ulster semi-final victory over Armagh at the Athletic Grounds. Photograph: Matt Mackey/Inpho
“That was the just the situation we found ourselves in,” admits Graham. “First and foremost, we were just delighted to be back playing football. When we did come back, we just said we’d take it one step at a time, try to consolidate our Division 2 status. Unfortunately we didn’t get the results we needed, but still felt we were learning along the way.
“After that it was all about Monaghan. That’s all you want from the players, just go out and give it a right go, playing with a bit of freedom, and expression, which they showed that day too.
“In fairness they were doing that in a lot of games this year, even when results weren’t going our way. But I feel the lads know now there is a wee bit of resilience there, because this isn’t the first time they’ve been able to get a result from a nearly impossible position. And look, Cavan have suffered some heavy defeats down through the years, and if anything that has made them a bit more mentally tough, that they know how to give it everything when they do go out.”
A quick glance through Graham’s orchestral CV reveals ample evidence of teams knowing how to give their all: from winning a county intermediate title in 2006 with Drumalee, a small club on the outskirts of Cavan town, to the historic Leinster football title with Longford club Mullinalaghta, in 2018.
Sunday’s showdown against Donegal is a different proposition. Cavan held up reasonably well last year in Graham’s first season as manager, losing 1-24 to 2-16, but this Donegal team, contesting their ninth final in 10 years and seeking a sixth title in that periods, are viewed as the only contenders remaining to Dublin’s All-Ireland crown.
Still a large part of this miracle is that in the depths of the pandemic winter Cavan are still out there. Graham’s work with Coca-Cola has him on the road meeting [from a social distance] some of the county supporters, and some of them still can’t believe it.
“At the start of this championship, if you came out and said Cavan were going to be in an Ulster final, people would laugh at you. So this is 100 per cent bonus territory for us, in an Ulster final, coming up against probably the second best team in the country. They’re a formidable outfit, we’re under no illusions about that, the challenge that lies ahead.
“We’re just delighted to be still playing football at this time of year. They’re only seven teams left in the country, Cavan are one of them. And if there is anything to take out of this, it’s given people something to look forward to at weekend. Especially Cavan people, they’ve been sitting at home at weekends, with nothing to do. I’ve been moving around, and the amount of people saying to me they’re so excited to have something to look forward to again this weekend.
“Even dropping the young child to school this week, the excitement in their faces, they need it as much as we do. They can’t go anywhere beyond school. And if it can inspire the next generation of young footballers in Cavan in some small way that will be a success in itself.”
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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #562 on: November 22, 2020, 04:13:30 PM »
Early days yet but Cavan giving a far better account of themselves than Armagh against Donegal.

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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #563 on: November 22, 2020, 04:13:53 PM »
Donegal would want to wake up if they want a crack at Dublin

Mickey Graham has done a hell of a job with this Cavan team

Killian Brady black carded, a blow to Cavan

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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #564 on: November 22, 2020, 04:14:33 PM »
Never a black card

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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #565 on: November 22, 2020, 04:15:40 PM »
That’ll do the job to drag Donegal back into it.


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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #566 on: November 22, 2020, 04:15:55 PM »
Cavan had started too well for barry cassidy so he decided to give the favs a helping hand.....well known for that is Barry

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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #567 on: November 22, 2020, 04:17:29 PM »
Ryan McHugh is always throwing the hands up screaming that’s he’s always hard done by. It’s clearly a Donegal tactic, and it worked there. I don’t think the ref was for doing anything until he threw the hands up.

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Re: Ulster Championship 2020
« Reply #568 on: November 22, 2020, 04:18:27 PM »
Ryan McHugh is always throwing the hands up screaming that’s he’s always hard done by. It’s clearly a Donegal tactic, and it worked there. I don’t think the ref was for doing anything until he threw the hands up.

Even if it is a Donegal thing, he is by far the worst at it

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« Reply #569 on: November 22, 2020, 04:18:32 PM »
That’s just a f**king joke of a decision
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