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Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« Reply #600 on: November 30, 2020, 09:17:12 AM »
We don't expect Dublin to apologise for being brilliant, we expect them to apologise for achieving that brilliance by drawing from the province sized population.

Dublin always had the advantage of population even as far back as the mid 80s when Meath won 5 out of 6 Leinster championships. From 1996 to 2010 inclusive Dublin appeared in zero All Ireland finals. They had the advantage of population for all that time. They’ve just got a brilliant group at the moment. This era of domination will pass. A good number of their finals recently were extremely close and could’ve gone either way. If even one of those results had gone the other way there would be a completely different narrative at the moment.

When do you think this era of dominance will end? And if Dublin do lose to Mayo this year?* will they go on a 5 year 'drought' or be back demolishing teams in 2021?

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Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« Reply #601 on: November 30, 2020, 09:41:30 AM »
Dublin will always be challenging for honours like Tipp/Kilkenny in the hurling. Doesn't mean they'll continue to win everything until the end of time.

It's disappointing that people expect Dublin to apologise for being brilliant and that is somehow a crime.

For those worried are dubs fans not enjoying this excellence of football execution I've got Christmas decorations with the 5 in a row on them going up for next week and dubs Christmas jumper is coming out to be worn to work. Dublin jerseys, jackets, face masks are a regular sight around Dublin so of we're playing a part in Dublin's dominance by pumping money into Dublin GAA coffers that's an added bonus
The stats show that Dublin are winning far more than their long term  mean due to some mysterious factor that nobody seems to be able to identify.
If it was down to population they would be around the long term mean. Because the population hasn't increased by 40% since 2009.
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Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« Reply #602 on: November 30, 2020, 09:46:58 AM »
We don't expect Dublin to apologise for being brilliant, we expect them to apologise for achieving that brilliance by drawing from the province sized population.

Dublin always had the advantage of population even as far back as the mid 80s when Meath won 5 out of 6 Leinster championships. From 1996 to 2010 inclusive Dublin appeared in zero All Ireland finals. They had the advantage of population for all that time. They’ve just got a brilliant group at the moment. This era of domination will pass. A good number of their finals recently were extremely close and could’ve gone either way. If even one of those results had gone the other way there would be a completely different narrative at the moment.

When do you think this era of dominance will end? And if Dublin do lose to Mayo this year?* will they go on a 5 year 'drought' or be back demolishing teams in 2021?

*A man can dream. :)

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Re: Leinster Championship 2020
« Reply #603 on: November 30, 2020, 09:56:23 AM »
You wonder do any of the Dublin players, even for just a moment, think that something just isn't right here. Do they think that the scales are heavily balanced in their favour and that doesn't quite sit right with them. Or inside that bubble of a county panel do they think that we just work harder than the rest, that we have better volunteers that other counties and that everyone else should work as hard as they do. You would have to think that at some point they wonder that beating other teams in Leinster by 10-20 points is fun or enjoyable or just sport. Maybe they are happy, great for Dublin GAA, feck the begrudgers. You would have to think as GAA men some part of them is not too happy with the current state of play.


I’m not sure what it’s like for county supporters like the dubs, but at club level winning every year for so long we just wanted it to continue. I don’t think there was any guilt felt by the players during that period.

Only a fool would want it to end
As a Dublin fan I think it's great to able to watch the likes of Fenton, Kilkenny, Cluxton in a Dublin jersey. Jack McCaffrey isn't there this year, but there's a buzz in the crowd when he gets the ball and you're just waiting for something to happen. That's why people watch sport.

Not only are they winning, but they play entertaining football. I don't know how people watched their county teams every game play dull negative defensive football that the rest of us had to sit through as the live game on the TV every sunday for years. At least watching on TV you could change the channel. Thankfully the majority of teams have moved away from this negative approach now

Dublin's domination is not going to last forever despite the hysterics and nonsense claimed here so just enjoying it while it lasts. Cluxton, McCarthy, Philly won't be around much longer so enjoying while we can.

Right, because there WON’T be top class replacements coming through to succeed them. ::)

I don’t see the replacements being as good as the ones mentioned in the post there. Especially in the case of cluxton and McCarthy

That's naive thinking, you look at all the new players Dublin have introduced in the past 4/5 years - Byrne, O'Callaghan, Fenton, Scully, Howard, Bugler, Small x2 etc - one bit of the chess board moves on another comes in and it all runs seamlessly. It's a conveyor belt they have. There's probably 7 or 8 Dublin clubs who are better than the majority of Div 4 sides. Look at their u20/u21 record. They've lost Flynn, Brogans, Connolly - guys like McMahon, O'Sullivan, MDMA, McManamon, Andrews etc have all more or less being phased out at this point.

It's worrying for everyone else when you see Dublin this year where the likes of Howard and Mannion aren't even able to make the starting side.

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