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Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Yes
76 (69.1%)
No
34 (30.9%)

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RedHand88

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2020, 05:49:02 PM »
If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2020, 05:53:56 PM »
I'm going to get all 3 Covid vaccines to be sure.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2020, 06:00:45 PM »
The perverse logic of this is incredible but not unsurprising

Covid - The Disease
Don't know the long term consequences
Unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely aid the spread of the disease if I get it, potentially causing the death of others
"HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT, CARRY ON REGARDLESS, BRING IT ON"

Covid - The Vaccine
Don't know the long term consequences
VERY unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely help stop the spread of the disease, potentially saving the lives of others
"FCUK THAT SHIT, DON'T WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR ME"

How, in the name of sweet fcuk does anyone with a brain arrive at this kind of decision?

RedHand88

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2020, 06:01:36 PM »
The perverse logic of this is incredible but not unsurprising

Covid - The Disease
Don't know the long term consequences
Unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely aid the spread of the disease if I get it, potentially causing the death of others
"HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT, CARRY ON REGARDLESS, BRING IT ON"

Covid - The Vaccine
Don't know the long term consequences
VERY unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely help stop the spread of the disease, potentially saving the lives of others
"FCUK THAT SHIT, DON'T WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR ME"

How, in the name of sweet fcuk does anyone with a brain arrive at this kind of decision?

Propaganda and choosing what they want to believe.

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2020, 06:33:13 PM »
If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.
The anti-vaccine ideology is overwhelmingly pushed by those with right-wing "libertarian" sympathies

Anti-vaccine ideology has deeply infected mainstream right-wing politics and media

There is no such similar problem on the broad left

Right-wing propaganda and disinformation is one of the central problems of our time, it is a virulent cancer

Again, there is no such similar problem on the broad left

Look at the New Zealand election

Why did that country overwhelmingly opt for sensible social democratic government rather than the screaming yahoos that rule the roost in the US, UK and increasingly Australia?

Because Murdoch media is not a factor

We are far from perfect in this country but Murdoch media is not a factor here either - unfortunately we do have some other outlets and minor demagogues here to take up the slack of disinformation and we are also quite influenced by what's happening in the UK and US


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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2020, 06:37:52 PM »
The perverse logic of this is incredible but not unsurprising

Covid - The Disease
Don't know the long term consequences
Unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely aid the spread of the disease if I get it, potentially causing the death of others
"HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT, CARRY ON REGARDLESS, BRING IT ON"

Covid - The Vaccine
Don't know the long term consequences
VERY unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely help stop the spread of the disease, potentially saving the lives of others
"FCUK THAT SHIT, DON'T WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR ME"

How, in the name of sweet fcuk does anyone with a brain arrive at this kind of decision?

You use words like likely and potentially, what if the vaccine was likely, potentially very much the cause of deaths, illness or deformities in the future, are those more acceptable than whatever number of deaths from covid when you subtract the 28 day lag anomaly.

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2020, 07:11:51 PM »
The perverse logic of this is incredible but not unsurprising

Covid - The Disease
Don't know the long term consequences
Unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely aid the spread of the disease if I get it, potentially causing the death of others
"HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT, CARRY ON REGARDLESS, BRING IT ON"

Covid - The Vaccine
Don't know the long term consequences
VERY unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely help stop the spread of the disease, potentially saving the lives of others
"FCUK THAT SHIT, DON'T WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR ME"

How, in the name of sweet fcuk does anyone with a brain arrive at this kind of decision?

Franko is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions there, maybe the WHO will be onto to solve this seeing as you seem to know so much about it.

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2020, 07:18:07 PM »
For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it値l have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2020, 07:22:09 PM »
For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it値l have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2020, 07:32:01 PM »
For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it値l have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

Maybe do some research on vaccines in our history and some of the long term health problems they can be attributed to.

I'll take my chances without it. If I catch the virus I will look after myself and following the quarantine procedures.

Do you get the flu vaccine annually?

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2020, 07:37:31 PM »
For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it値l have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

Maybe do some research on vaccines in our history and some of the long term health problems they can be attributed to.

I'll take my chances without it. If I catch the virus I will look after myself and following the quarantine procedures.

Do you get the flu vaccine annually?

Your views sir are moronic
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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2020, 07:45:35 PM »
For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it値l have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

Maybe do some research on vaccines in our history and some of the long term health problems they can be attributed to.

I'll take my chances without it. If I catch the virus I will look after myself and following the quarantine procedures.

Do you get the flu vaccine annually?

Incredibly selfish attitude to take.

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2020, 07:55:11 PM »
If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.
The anti-vaccine ideology is overwhelmingly pushed by those with right-wing "libertarian" sympathies

Anti-vaccine ideology has deeply infected mainstream right-wing politics and media

There is no such similar problem on the broad left

Right-wing propaganda and disinformation is one of the central problems of our time, it is a virulent cancer

Again, there is no such similar problem on the broad left

Look at the New Zealand election

Why did that country overwhelmingly opt for sensible social democratic government rather than the screaming yahoos that rule the roost in the US, UK and increasingly Australia?

Because Murdoch media is not a factor

We are far from perfect in this country but Murdoch media is not a factor here either - unfortunately we do have some other outlets and minor demagogues here to take up the slack of disinformation and we are also quite influenced by what's happening in the UK and US

Plenty on the left too.
Heres governor of Vermont Democratic candidate David Zuckerman. His voting history makes for interesting reading....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/21/anti-vaccine-coronavirus-137446

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2020, 07:57:43 PM »
What are the odds on having a severe reaction to a vaccine shot ?

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Re: Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2020, 08:04:50 PM »
For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it値l have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

Maybe do some research on vaccines in our history and some of the long term health problems they can be attributed to.

I'll take my chances without it. If I catch the virus I will look after myself and following the quarantine procedures.

Do you get the flu vaccine annually?

Incredibly selfish attitude to take.

I value my own health, if that's deemed as selfish then so be it.

Look at the flu vaccine in South Korea as a recent example.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/doctors-in-south-korea-call-for-flu-vaccinations-to-be-paused-after-25-deaths