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michaelg

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« Reply #105 on: September 16, 2020, 09:38:49 PM »
He escaped to Argentina.
He is now around 130 years old, goes by the alias Donald Trump.....

He is only hiding because he cannot pay the gas bill.
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« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2020, 09:44:16 PM »
There is a difference sometimes between accepted history and actual facts. It was accepted history that the Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 was mass bombers but they were not. The difficulty you have about history is that it is written by the victor. The likely story is that Hitler died as believed but that does not mean there is a possibility that it was part of a cover up as part of the deal done to end the war. The further we go from historical events the less likely that the real Ďtruthí comes out. Sometimes you have to accept things as told but be skeptically curious at the same time.

Of course. But thereís a big difference between healthy skepticism and calling everything and anything false because.... well just because. Given that conspiracy theories are generally half-baked ideas based on cherry picked morsels of evidence while ignoring everything else, theyíre not owed any serious consideration.

If Benny wants to lay out the case for Hitler not having died in the bunker, he is free to do so. Just saying itís bullshit and leaving it at that doesnít really wash.

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« Reply #107 on: September 16, 2020, 09:53:48 PM »
One of the most recent ridiculous conspiracy theories was that the Obama's had Joan Rivers bumped off for making derogatory remarks.

Still can't explain this though. Very weird.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RaM9zK10cDy5/
« Last Edit: September 17, 2020, 12:33:43 AM by Roesider »

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« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2020, 10:00:41 PM »
What evidence is there that Hitler did die in Germany?

Absolutely none.

Iím not sure about him heading to Argentina, but he certainly didnít top himself in his bunker.

Based on what?

Using my brain.
Hmm, I think Iíve found the problem.

Whereís the proof he did?
I donít have any and itís possible he didnít. Thereís a massive jump between that and ďhe certainly didnítĒ though so over to you to do some explaining.

I have looked into this, there were reports that they werenít Hitler and Braunís bodies. There were no photos, They were badly burnt, ĎHitlerísí body was smaller, probably a womanís body . And fair enough, so Ďcertainlyí was just a figure of speech as I just donít believe they died in their bunker, but  no  matter what I say on it, it will be rebuffed by what the Ďhistoriansí say.  Same as JFK, Iíd imagine most people donít believe the Oswald story, but the whole thing was covered up so much, evidence missing etc etc that the real story will always be shot down, no pun intended.

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« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2020, 10:31:38 PM »
I haven't done any great research into the Lockerbie bomb but on the face of it it seems fairly reasonable to me to think that Lybia wasn't behind it at all, that yer man Megrahi was framed or given up by the Lybians because of geopolitical necessities, and that it was Iran or perhaps the Iran-Syria-Palestine axis that was behind it, I'm sure Robert Fisk once wrote that some guy from the Popular Front For The Liberation of Palestine carried it out

Iranian involvement has always made sense because the Americans shot down an Iranian civilian airliner less than six months previously with the loss of 290 lives

Adam Curtis's documentaries tell us that western policy as regards Gaddafi's Lybia was a giant fraud for three decades, that Lybia was framed as a global supervillain based on nothing other than expediency - in reality Gaddafi was seen as a joke by the Americans and the British - and that Gaddafi himself was happy to assume the role of scourge of the west as it helped to prop him up at home, to foster a cult of personality around him

Then in the 2000s, Bush and Blair did a sudden volte face for their own personal reasons to notch a rare but fake "win" in the failing "War On Terror" and decided to bring Gaddafi in from the cold, which again suited Gaddafi

And that Hafez al-Assad was the real driving force behind a string of terrorist attacks in the west or against Western military forces in the 1980s

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« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2020, 10:34:40 PM »
What evidence is there that Hitler did die in Germany?

Absolutely none.

Iím not sure about him heading to Argentina, but he certainly didnít top himself in his bunker.

Based on what?

Using my brain.
Hmm, I think Iíve found the problem.

Whereís the proof he did?

The accepted history is that he and Eva Braun committed suicide in the bunker. Other hangers-on such as Goebbels and his wife did likewise, while the likes of Bormann tried to escape the bunker but committed suicide to avoid capture by the Red Army. 

Where's the proof that its all bullshit? Why should we take you seriously at the expense of historians?

And how do actually you function in life when everything is a conspiracy?

Thereís the problem with that. Sure historians tell us Oswald shot Kennedy. Doesnít mean itís true.
Pretty much everything we know about it says Oswald shot Kennedy and that he acted alone

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« Reply #111 on: September 16, 2020, 10:41:01 PM »
Can I suggest that if you've a few minutes to kill to read up on the Wikipedia article and do a Web search on the Bielefeld Conspiracy - basically it's a conspiracy theory that takes the piss out of conspiracy theories... or maybe I'm in on the conspiracy? ;) I mean I've never been to Crossmaglen, how can anyone prove to me that it actually exists, let alone Bielefeld? ;) ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy

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« Reply #112 on: September 16, 2020, 10:47:30 PM »
Can I suggest that if you've a few minutes to kill to read up on the Wikipedia article and do a Web search on the Bielefeld Conspiracy - basically it's a conspiracy theory that takes the piss out of conspiracy theories... or maybe I'm in on the conspiracy? ;) I mean I've never been to Crossmaglen, how can anyone prove to me that it actually exists, let alone Bielefeld? ;) ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy

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Perhaps Bielefeld is not in Germany at all but in Arminia

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« Reply #113 on: September 16, 2020, 10:49:33 PM »
He escaped to Argentina.
He is now around 130 years old, goes by the alias Donald Trump.....

He is only hiding because he cannot pay the gas bill.
Dreadful comment.

Too soon?
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« Reply #114 on: September 17, 2020, 08:47:21 AM »
One of the most recent ridiculous conspiracy theories was that the Obama's had Joan Rivers bumped off for making derogatory remarks.

Still can't explain this though. Very weird.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RaM9zK10cDy5/


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« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2020, 10:50:54 PM »
One of the most recent ridiculous conspiracy theories was that the Obama's had Joan Rivers bumped off for making derogatory remarks.

Still can't explain this though. Very weird.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RaM9zK10cDy5/




Have you managed to make it back to the keyboard yet? :D

I still can't stop laughing at the guy in the middle of the video - not sure if he was in the audience or not.

Certainly makes you wonder if Mrs Obama was actually a First Lady!
« Last Edit: September 19, 2020, 10:52:32 PM by Roesider »

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« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2020, 10:52:17 PM »
I see the antvax gang including the disgusting Dolores Cahill were stirring up trouble in London today.
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« Reply #117 on: September 20, 2020, 07:31:09 AM »
its only going to get bigger there were protests in dublin today

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« Reply #118 on: September 20, 2020, 09:39:12 AM »
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« Reply #119 on: September 20, 2020, 09:52:56 AM »
its only going to get bigger there were protests in dublin today

Think there were some in Galway as well. Wouldn't it be craic if a few of them got the virus themselves!
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