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Evil Genius

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Sports Funding in NI
« on: August 16, 2020, 07:21:25 PM »
"An Ulster Unionist MLA has called for equality of funding to sports bodies after official figures revealed Ulster GAA received almost five times more from Stormont in the past three years compared to the Irish Football Association.

Rosemary Barton said Department for Communities figures show that Ulster GAA received over £3m from the department and Sport NI, with the IFA receiving £648,888 and Ulster Rugby £701,289.

"This means that Ulster GAA received almost 2.5 times more than the other two sporting bodies together and almost five times more than that of either Ulster Rugby or the Irish Football Association," she said."

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/ulster-unionist-mla-rosemary-barton-queries-gaas-larger-slice-of-sport-funding-pie-39445089.html

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Re: Sports Funding in NI
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2020, 07:29:34 PM »
"An Ulster Unionist MLA has called for equality"

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2020, 08:06:35 PM »
What was the proportion of applied for funding versus funding granted?
You canít give funding to people who donít ask for it.

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Re: Sports Funding in NI
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2020, 08:12:28 PM »
Seeing as the GAA got nothing from 1922 to the mid 1990s.....
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Re: Sports Funding in NI
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2020, 08:32:49 PM »
What was the proportion of applied for funding versus funding granted?
You canít give funding to people who donít ask for it.
I could maybe see one or other of the two sports being disorganised when it comes to applying etc, but both?

Doesn't seem very likely to me, esp since Ulster Rugby, at least, should be getting prompting from HQ (Dublin), to make sure their funding applications are up-to-date in NI.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2020, 08:59:36 PM »
What was the proportion of applied for funding versus funding granted?
You canít give funding to people who donít ask for it.
I could maybe see one or other of the two sports being disorganised when it comes to applying etc, but both?

Doesn't seem very likely to me, esp since Ulster Rugby, at least, should be getting prompting from HQ (Dublin), to make sure their funding applications are up-to-date in NI.
So are you  implying that there is a bias within Sport NI  towards the GAA in allocating the funding at the expense of the other organisations? I just canít see that being allowed to fly. GAA clubs are very VERY good at applying for grant funding, and always have projects in the pipeline, they learn from each other.

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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2020, 09:08:10 PM »
Every sporting organisation has an entitlement to apply for funding. A better question would be whether or not funding was denied to one sporting organisation over another? 

Also it would be interesting to see where the funding was going to?  I would imagine that the GAA would have a lot of capital investment funding for grounds development etc. That has generally higher levels of money involved and also requires that the club/county applying for the funding matches a significant amount of the funding, or actually has the money in the bank and the funding is released in retrospect.

I would doubt that there is an uneven approach to funding being granted, rather that GAA clubs are better at it and looking for higher amounts.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2020, 10:02:05 PM »
Every sporting organisation has an entitlement to apply for funding. A better question would be whether or not funding was denied to one sporting organisation over another? 

Also it would be interesting to see where the funding was going to?  I would imagine that the GAA would have a lot of capital investment funding for grounds development etc. That has generally higher levels of money involved and also requires that the club/county applying for the funding matches a significant amount of the funding, or actually has the money in the bank and the funding is released in retrospect.

I would doubt that there is an uneven approach to funding being granted, rather that GAA clubs are better at it and looking for higher amounts.

Also , Gaa clubs are almost unique in that they are community organisations  as well as sporting ones . A lot of the funding they receive is for community halls, gyms, play areas. There are very few rugby clubs by comparison , and like soccer , rugby donít draw their players from one locality , and therefore are not steeped in the community. GAA clubs tend to contribute heavily to their local community compared to soccer/rugby. Their hunger for voluntary work for their community also results in them investing heavily in applying for funding and in organising match funding.

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Re: Sports Funding in NI
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2020, 10:09:33 PM »
GAA, IFA & Ulster Rugby, usually collaborate on Funding seminars with respect to funding streams via SPORT NI,  across the North.

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Re: Sports Funding in NI
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2020, 09:32:27 AM »
Yeah I very much doubt there is anything to see here other than a headline

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2020, 09:51:39 AM »
The IFA couldn't organise a piss up in James' gate, so disregard soccer. Sure most of them play on council pitches and have little more than jerseys to their name.

There aren't the same number of rugby clubs as GAA clubs, so while they are organised, they are never going to have the same throughput of funding.

Rois statement is correct - You canít give funding to people who donít ask for it.

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2020, 11:53:53 AM »
Orange or Community halls in unionist areas receive funding in the same way as GAA community halls.
Comparing soccer, rugby or indeed basketball or netball funding with GAA funding doesnít give the full picture

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Re: Sports Funding in NI
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2020, 12:53:33 PM »
No but it's a great excuse for a Sectarian whinge ;)
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2020, 02:13:05 PM »
No but it's a great excuse for a Sectarian whinge ;)
How could anyone bring Sectarianism into it?

Sure isn't the GAA in the north [sic] entirely cross-community?

I mean, you can hardly move in your local GAA club these days for Ghanaian Fishermen and Linda Ervine....
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2020, 03:40:25 PM »
No but it's a great excuse for a Sectarian whinge ;)
How could anyone bring Sectarianism into it?

Sure isn't the GAA in the north [sic] entirely cross-community?

I mean, you can hardly move in your local GAA club these days for Ghanaian Fishermen and Linda Ervine....

What are your opinions on the funding?