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befair

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Defensive football
« on: July 20, 2020, 04:54:05 PM »
This is depressing. Was talking to a ref, who has officiated at two recent games. As no spectators allowed, depending on his reports. Both were low-scoring, and both, he says, had the same old defensive tactics, 15 men behind the ball, short, uncontested kick-outs, endless hand-passing around the 45 meter line. So despite all the rule changes designed to disincentivise the defensive game the coaches haven't changed.
Time for something more dramatic? Maybe a move to 13-a-side, (which would also allow a more level playing field for smaller clubs/counties)

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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2020, 05:03:53 PM »
League game in Cavan yesterday division 1.

Lacken 3 16
Gowna 7 7


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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2020, 05:05:05 PM »
Since most club coaches try and rip off whatever counties are doing by and large the following year. It puts some of them in a tough spot when they have to innovate themselves first.

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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2020, 05:10:18 PM »
League game in Cavan yesterday division 1.

Lacken 3 16
Gowna 7 7

I am not sure if it is good that the county team goalie lets in 7 goals :o But I believe he score 1-something too. Crazy scoreline!

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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 02:20:36 PM »
How bout  a shot clock or 30 seconds to cross your half

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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2020, 02:32:21 PM »
This is depressing. Was talking to a ref, who has officiated at two recent games. As no spectators allowed, depending on his reports. Both were low-scoring, and both, he says, had the same old defensive tactics, 15 men behind the ball, short, uncontested kick-outs, endless hand-passing around the 45 meter line. So despite all the rule changes designed to disincentivise the defensive game the coaches haven't changed.
Time for something more dramatic? Maybe a move to 13-a-side, (which would also allow a more level playing field for smaller clubs/counties)

The problem rugby has grown into the past 15 years, is that at anything approving a higher level, unless you’re carrying 3 stone of muscle, you will be run over and exposed. It has become an almost technical-skill free game at international level; instead it’s all about mental composure ie do not make a mistake.

Anyhow, the basic point being that you cannot aspire to a future in rugby unless you’re willing and able to devote more exceptional time to your physique.

The 13 a side game you talk of would bring similar issues. More athletic players - at every level - would be rewarded with almost 15% more space to run into. The need for them to be skilful becomes less important, the need for everyone else to become fitter and (somehow) quicker becomes paramount.

So unless you’re born with proper natural athleticism, there would be no future for you in the game.

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Award a foul from dead centre, should anyone pass the back backwards over either 45. By being able to reduce the available pitch area by 33% then 66%, it gives the defending team a reward for pushing out and forcing their opponents up the field. Currently this doesn’t exist. Step out now, and you’ll be pulled like a yo-yo around the field, until a no-risk attacking pass is available.

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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2020, 05:52:11 PM »
Yes we need more rule changes. Out of curiosity when’s the last time any you lot kicked a ball?

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Re: Defensive football
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2020, 05:49:59 PM »
Yes we need more rule changes. Out of curiosity when’s the last time any you lot kicked a ball?
A modern coach would never let you kick a ball
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