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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #180 on: November 21, 2020, 03:25:37 PM »
If he hadn’t took him down that was a goal opportunity. Not guaranteed
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« Reply #181 on: November 21, 2020, 03:34:18 PM »
Yeah, soft enough yellow. Reaching over the top while his man reaches for the ball unprotected.

In saying that, that's twice have lost a man in big games, last year's semi-final where they got away with it but not this time.  Down to 14, there was a lot of space which Galway exploited well.  They have pace and power.  Long season for the 2 Mc Graths between hurling and football.  Tipp, as you'd expect, battled gamely but the extra man was tough on their aging limbs in the last 15 mins.

Only concern now is they're only a week to get rested up and get recovered.  They'll take that I'm sure.  Shane O'Neill doing a good job - introducing the young lads sparingly but keeping the energy levels up.

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« Reply #182 on: November 21, 2020, 04:08:11 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #183 on: November 21, 2020, 04:15:57 PM »
Tony Kelly carrying an injury which might hurt Clare in the end.

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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #184 on: November 21, 2020, 07:55:55 PM »
Have been out all day so didn't get chance to see any of this afternoon's game. The one in a row yet again for Tipp.
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« Reply #185 on: November 21, 2020, 08:10:44 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points


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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #186 on: November 21, 2020, 08:47:10 PM »
Galway v tipp is always a tight one. I have seen so many great Galway tipp games down the years - always love watching them.


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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #187 on: November 21, 2020, 08:47:45 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points
The plural of anecdote is not data

5 different winners in 6 years suggests a decent spread
5/5 does not
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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #188 on: November 21, 2020, 08:52:21 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points
The plural of anecdote is not data

5 different winners in 6 years suggests a decent spread
5/5 does not
But you were talking about margins

Margins in All-Ireland football finals 2010-2019
1 point
1 point
4 points
1 point
3 points
3 points
0 points (1 point)
1 point
6 points
0 points (6 points)

Kilkenny won 11 out of 16 hurling All-Irelands between 2000 and 2015
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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #189 on: November 21, 2020, 09:23:30 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points

I think the point they were trying to make was the recent different winners in the hurling.

Football is all one way traffic recently, and after tonight, for the forseeable it seems!

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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #190 on: November 21, 2020, 11:15:45 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points
The plural of anecdote is not data

5 different winners in 6 years suggests a decent spread
5/5 does not
But you were talking about margins

Margins in All-Ireland football finals 2010-2019
1 point
1 point
4 points
1 point
3 points
3 points
0 points (1 point)
1 point
6 points
0 points (6 points)

Kilkenny won 11 out of 16 hurling All-Irelands between 2000 and 2015

Good mix of winners in last ten years (Clare, Tipp, Limerick, Galway, Kilkenny) this year providing more upsets,  which adds to the excitement. We could use a lot of dates between years to show dominance.


You’ve picked Kilkennys wonder years,  you could also go back to Kerry’s golden years and show dominance in the football like it is now.

If you feel it’s dominated by a single team then you clearly don’t watch enough.
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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #191 on: November 22, 2020, 11:04:17 AM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points

I think the point they were trying to make was the recent different winners in the hurling.

Football is all one way traffic recently, and after tonight, for the forseeable it seems!

Sid has a point though, when Kilkenny were hammering everyone out of sight for most of the 00's and early teens it was problematic for hurling in general. Both Limerick and Waterford were beat in AI finals when the game was over after 15 minutes.
They've fallen a bit but that's maybe because the likes of Galway and Limerick got off their holes and set in motion the processes for them to challenge Kilkenny. Heck, even  Clare won three AI U21's before going onto claim their AI in 2013. They were putting the work in.

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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #192 on: November 22, 2020, 11:20:27 AM »
Two games were the finalist were past their best and surprised the other teams in the semi finals... Waterford best team at that time was getting on and Limerick were bate by 7 but had a great semi final.

Kilkenny could have won more but the other teams didn’t lie down, they decided to do something about it...

The gurning about Dublin being unbeatable and the resources blah blah blah, teams are beat before they even start the season ffs!

Cody would still be winning championships if all the other counties took that attitude
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Re: The Covid all Ireland hurling championship 2020/21
« Reply #193 on: November 22, 2020, 02:01:52 PM »
Galway v Tipp is the best rivalry in hurling

Fantastic game for entertainment - but I don't think it was quite at Limerick's level

Galway really kept the head for the goal, just worked it around the houses and found the free man on the far side

Adrian Tuohy did what Eoghan McLaughlin did last week, he had to do it but it's hard to believe that what Cathal Barrett did was more worthy of being put off the field than what Tuohy did

Small margins
That is what hurling has. Football unfortunately does not.
Hmmmmm

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland hurling final was 14 points

The margin in the 2019 All-Ireland football final was 0 points

I think the point they were trying to make was the recent different winners in the hurling.

Football is all one way traffic recently, and after tonight, for the forseeable it seems!

Sid has a point though, when Kilkenny were hammering everyone out of sight for most of the 00's and early teens it was problematic for hurling in general. Both Limerick and Waterford were beat in AI finals when the game was over after 15 minutes.
They've fallen a bit but that's maybe because the likes of Galway and Limerick got off their holes and set in motion the processes for them to challenge Kilkenny. Heck, even  Clare won three AI U21's before going onto claim their AI in 2013. They were putting the work in.
Limerick are currently warm favourites to win their second All-Ireland in three years, this team could rack up five or six All-Irelands if they have the desire to do so, they have a massive panel

Go back the late 2000s and early 2010s and examine where they were, they were desperate - in 2008 they were well beaten by Clare in Munster and thrashed by Offaly in the qualifiers under the shadow of the arches of the newly built Thomond Park - it was said that hurling was dying out in Limerick

In 2009 they were beaten by Waterford in Munster in one of the worst games of hurling I've ever seen, they got an easy route through the qualifiers and staggered through to an All-Ireland semi-final where they were humiliated by Tipperary, they were beaten by 24 points

In 2010 they didn't even field a proper team - the first choice players all went on strike for the whole year

But underneath the surface, Limerick were revolutionising their underage set up at this time and that led to a really good group of players that came through at minor level around 2013 and 2014 - yet they didn't win a minor All-Ireland

They did however win two under-21 All-Irelands

Árd Scoil Rís and Na Piarsaigh were turning Limerick city into a hurling powerhouse and Limerick got their act together at senior level under John Kiely

They got the business community on board despite the massive competitor that is Munster rugby

All that added up to what they have now

Before 1998, Waterford were a joke, their lot was generally to be fodder for Cork, Tipp or Limerick in the first round of Munster in front of 8 or 10 thousand spectators

They reached three Munster finals in 1982, 1983 and 1989 and were humiliated in each one, in 1982 they lost by 31 points

They were even knocked out of Munster by Kerry in 1993

But like Limerick later on, they focused on the big suburban areas of Waterford City and turned that city into a hurling powerhouse where it previously hadn't been

Even Davy coming into Wexford has awoken them form their slumber, they flopped this year and he's probably not the man to take them forward but he brought the passion and the pride back into Wexford, as well as a sense of professionalism and if Wexford as a county play their cards right they should benefit in future years from the excitement of 2019

You need to have your house in order at all levels - schools, clubs, underage county level, senior inter-county level

It just seems to me that in football, a lot of counties have a losing attitude and are happy enough with that - Derry, Down, Armagh, Meath, Kildare and to an extent Galway and Cork are among those who do

Donegal and Mayo are two of those who don't

Offaly in hurling were a county that just let their structures go to hell and now they're absolutely nowhere, this is a county that reached 7 All-Ireland finals out of 20 between 1981 and 2000 and won four of them

People make structures and it's attitude and culture that makes the people that make the structures

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« Reply #194 on: November 22, 2020, 02:52:01 PM »
Post that on the Dublin thread ... all those calling to scrap the leagues might take heart from that
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