Films and TV shows which will be banned

[Milltown Row2]

Anyone old enough to remember the show, Mind your language? During my innocent years I found this funny...

[BennyCake]

He ruined Craig David. Ruined him.

Yeah but he was doing a skit of Craig David. He wore a black mask because Craig David is black. Was he supposed to portray him with a white mask?

Does this mean all the white characters he portrayed were all fine, but the black ones weren't? Like ffs!

So are you suggesting that Conor Moore, the Irishman who has recently had a lot of success in the US doing impressions of golfers, should wear blackface if he's doing an impression of Tiger Woods?

That would seem to be a logical follow on from what you say.

Moore's act isn't about wearing masks though.

I've heard it said the Craig David mask, people complained because it ruined CD's career. Never heard anyone say, oh that's racist. Now suddenly it is racist?

[tbrick18]

Didn't Robert Downey Jr black up for some film?

Tropic thunder i think it was called, pure dung.

[Main Street]

I don't quite get the commotion about GWTW.  Isn't blatantly obvious that GWTW distorts the experience of slavery, that this is how black Americans were depicted by Hollywood in the 1940s and GWTW is just one of many films which are evidence to that depiction. It's a historical film and the film's making is of its time.
Have we not had a tv series called Roots and many others which offered more realistic alternative perceptions of that piece of slave history and from a black perspective.


Once Mel Brooks claimed that Blazing Saddles wouldn't be made in today's PC environment, eg. that you just wouldn't have an elderly white woman return a greeting to the new town sheriff with a "get lost n*gger" 
I think he's wrong, Tarantino has done it to excess and many others as well.

[tbrick18]

He ruined Craig David. Ruined him.

Yeah but he was doing a skit of Craig David. He wore a black mask because Craig David is black. Was he supposed to portray him with a white mask?

Does this mean all the white characters he portrayed were all fine, but the black ones weren't? Like ffs!

So are you suggesting that Conor Moore, the Irishman who has recently had a lot of success in the US doing impressions of golfers, should wear blackface if he's doing an impression of Tiger Woods?

That would seem to be a logical follow on from what you say.

That would be funny.
In the same way it's funny when he puts a latex cover on his head to impersonate Ger Loughnane.
It's not comedic because Woods is black or because Ger is bald. That's just incidental. The humour is in the content and the delivery for Conor Moore.

[johnnycool]

I don't quite get the commotion about GWTW.  Isn't blatantly obvious that GWTW distorts the experience of slavery, that this is how black Americans were depicted by Hollywood in the 1940s and GWTW is just one of many films which are evidence to that depiction. It's a historical film and the film's making is of its time.
Have we not had a tv series called Roots and many others which offered more realistic alternative perceptions of that piece of slave history and from a black perspective.


Once Mel Brooks claimed that Blazing Saddles wouldn't be made in today's PC environment, eg. that you just wouldn't have an elderly white woman return a greeting to the new town sheriff with a "get lost n*gger" 
I think he's wrong, Tarantino has done it to excess and many others as well.

Tarantino probably got away with it as in Django Unchained it was the black slave who was the hero at the expense of the either pure evil plantation owner or the thick as shit redneck helping hands.
Blazing Saddles tread a similar path for laughs.

GWTW and the likes had the slaves as almost grateful helpers, uncle toms' to coin a phrase.

I'd suggest neither are to relied upon as historically factual.

[J70]

I don't quite get the commotion about GWTW.  Isn't blatantly obvious that GWTW distorts the experience of slavery, that this is how black Americans were depicted by Hollywood in the 1940s and GWTW is just one of many films which are evidence to that depiction. It's a historical film and the film's making is of its time.
Have we not had a tv series called Roots and many others which offered more realistic alternative perceptions of that piece of slave history and from a black perspective.


Once Mel Brooks claimed that Blazing Saddles wouldn't be made in today's PC environment, eg. that you just wouldn't have an elderly white woman return a greeting to the new town sheriff with a "get lost n*gger" 
I think he's wrong, Tarantino has done it to excess and many others as well.

I think Brooks is wrong too.

Blazing Saddles is one of the most anti-racist films ever made.

On GWTW, I think the distortion of the horror of slavery is the whole point of the objections. That and some pretty awful stereotyping.

Birth of a Nation was a completely revolutionary film on a technical level, but its content is rightly dismissed today as appalling.

[Main Street]

Isn't there a point where we know and acccept  GWTW has its stereotypical distortions about slavery and move on?
What stone would a person have crawled out from under, in order to believe that's how slavery actually was in those days?
The film itself is a testament to the prejudice and lies Hollywood propogated about the reality of slavery.

Check out  Leni Riefenstahl: Olympia - Festival of Nations (1936) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3LOPhRq3Es
Can it not be appreciated that it's a document of its time, possibly the most perfect piece of propoganda of all time, albeit for the fallacy that was Nazi doctrine.

[sid waddell]

He ruined Craig David. Ruined him.

Yeah but he was doing a skit of Craig David. He wore a black mask because Craig David is black. Was he supposed to portray him with a white mask?

Does this mean all the white characters he portrayed were all fine, but the black ones weren't? Like ffs!

So are you suggesting that Conor Moore, the Irishman who has recently had a lot of success in the US doing impressions of golfers, should wear blackface if he's doing an impression of Tiger Woods?

That would seem to be a logical follow on from what you say.

Moore's act isn't about wearing masks though.

I've heard it said the Craig David mask, people complained because it ruined CD's career. Never heard anyone say, oh that's racist. Now suddenly it is racist?

Could you answer the question?

Should Moore wear blackface when doing an impression of Tiger Woods?

[BennyCake]

He ruined Craig David. Ruined him.

Yeah but he was doing a skit of Craig David. He wore a black mask because Craig David is black. Was he supposed to portray him with a white mask?

Does this mean all the white characters he portrayed were all fine, but the black ones weren't? Like ffs!

So are you suggesting that Conor Moore, the Irishman who has recently had a lot of success in the US doing impressions of golfers, should wear blackface if he's doing an impression of Tiger Woods?

That would seem to be a logical follow on from what you say.

Moore's act isn't about wearing masks though.

I've heard it said the Craig David mask, people complained because it ruined CD's career. Never heard anyone say, oh that's racist. Now suddenly it is racist?

Could you answer the question?

Should Moore wear blackface when doing an impression of Tiger Woods?

I answered your question.

[general]

GRAN TORINO  - What a film.

many clint eastwood films will be banished

Don't think Gran Torino will be among them.

Some of the Dirty Harry ones, yes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsXHVC8wM1M

"Slipper Heads" and "gooks"

[Milltown Row2]

I assume this (now) woman is being sought for a public flogging?

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyDixonDJ/status/1129472007932919814

Jesus! Absolutely strung up and getting fucked into the Liffey right now!

[J70]

GRAN TORINO  - What a film.

many clint eastwood films will be banished

Don't think Gran Torino will be among them.

Some of the Dirty Harry ones, yes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsXHVC8wM1M

"Slipper Heads" and "gooks"

Yes but, fanciful as it might be, its a story of a bigot who is reformed, somehow, at the hands of a pair of immigrant kids (he sees that, my god, they're human beings!!) and saves them.

I'd say more people would find the whole premise of the story more offensive and outlandish than would be offended by the racial slurs which are not glorified, but simply the expressions of an old racist character. Replace those words (and I'm sure they are for US network TV) and the story, with all its problems, still remains.

[BennyCake]

I assume this (now) woman is being sought for a public flogging?

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyDixonDJ/status/1129472007932919814

Jesus! Absolutely strung up and getting fucked into the Liffey right now!

Expect a mob at the door any second now 

[Gmac]

Fawlty towers would have a few too many stereotypes , o brien the chancer builder I think was one