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Angelo

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2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« on: June 06, 2020, 10:43:23 AM »
Are they now going to enforce the draw for this year's championship on a straight knockout basis, as it was pre-qualifier era?

The one thing about the qualifiers was it brought some sort of redress to Championship imbalance for the Ulster counties, it wasn't perfect as I believe the qualifier system should not allow counties from the same province meeting for as far as possible. Not really fair if a Donegal or Tyrone face off in the first round of Championship and the loser then has to face off against the loser of a Monaghan/Armagh clash while Kerry get parachuted into a Munster final by beating a Limerick or Tipp etc but at least the qualifier system then implement some sort of redress.

Surely in the case of straight knockout the Championship will be redrawn on an All Ireland basis, R32 through to final. 5 rounds. Seed the Div 1 and 2 teams for the first round, losers then go into the B Championship and an open draw from there on. For the year that is in it and with the exceptional circumstances surely this is a great way to trial it and probably the fairest on all counties involved?

If enforcing the draw as it is, this would lead to an instance where the 2014 and 2018 All Ireland finalists, both counties you could safely say are the 2 of the top 6 in the country right now are facing off a do or die battle in the first round of Championship, one is going home after one game played. Meanwhile if you look at the draw in Connacht, Galway are into a Connacht final after playing Sligo, a div 4 team.

I'd imagine the Donegal and Tyrone County Boards will be up in arms if the GAA try to enforce this.

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2020, 10:58:59 AM »
Surely if they're going to a straight All Ireland 32 County Knockout then that would have to be re-drawn?

Not least to take account of New York and London no longer being involved.

Angelo

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2020, 11:04:15 AM »
Surely if they're going to a straight All Ireland 32 County Knockout then that would have to be re-drawn?

Not least to take account of New York and London no longer being involved.

You'd hope so but I fear it will be as drawn with Galway given a bye to face Sligo in the Connacht semi final.

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2020, 11:49:15 AM »
Round of 32
Round of 16
QFs
SFs
Final

Five rounds. Open draw. Even if you have a week break between each, it still takes 9 weeks to complete. Plus a few weeks for counties to prepare. So thatís about 12 weeks, or 3 months.

Thatís still a long window to complete, considering the risk of a second wave that may bring it to a halt halfway through. Weíd all love a championship this year if itís safe to do so.

So, best not to piss about, and get it played in as short a timeframe as possible. The shortest timeframe is what Iíve listed above. But Iím sure HQ will find some stupid way of pissing about with it, dragging it out and needlessly complicating things.

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2020, 12:01:50 PM »
Letís scrap the provincials, and get the possibility of Kerry or Dublin heading north for a first round championship game 😀 The days of a loaded championship system favouring big teams in weaker / smaller provinces should be consigned to the past.  And Iíd have a * placed beside each of Kerry and Dublinís previous All Irelandís to denote that they were won in a biased Championship system 😉

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2020, 12:22:48 PM »
If it needs to be done during this period it needs to be a straight knockout like before, no backdoors just a front door, teams train all year not just for championship, they train for the league also, getting an extra game or two wonít make a pile of difference, and winning an All Ireland through the backdoor always comes with an asterisk
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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2020, 12:49:55 PM »
If the championship does go ahead they arenít going to scrap the provincial championships.
Iíd love to see it and an open draw knockout in its place but itís not going to happen imo.

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2020, 12:58:55 PM »
If it needs to be done during this period it needs to be a straight knockout like before, no backdoors just a front door, teams train all year not just for championship, they train for the league also, getting an extra game or two wonít make a pile of difference, and winning an All Ireland through the backdoor always comes with an asterisk

Where do those asterisks appear though? You never see them in any roll of honour. Only in peopleís heads.

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2020, 01:24:10 PM »
The silly season has arrived complete with asterisks.
The GAA will be deciding in 3 weeks on exact formats and whether NFL gets completed .
They might have 2 SFCs- one for asterisk Counties and 1 for non asterisk ones.
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2020, 01:26:42 PM »
From journalist Colm Keys whom is normal accurate.

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The format of inter-county competitions will not be revealed until close to phase three, in about three weeks time.
But it looks certain that it will be knock-out, using the existing provincial championship draws and will run through November and into December, if required.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2020, 01:42:30 PM »
The silly season has arrived complete with asterisks.
The GAA will be deciding in 3 weeks on exact formats and whether NFL gets completed .
They might have 2 SFCs- one for asterisk Counties and 1 for non asterisk ones.

I guess in the west there wouldnít be much appetite for an open 32 county draw, same in certain parts of Munster. 😊

Definitely want to see fixtures of importance completed in the leagues.

« Last Edit: June 06, 2020, 01:44:06 PM by balladmaker »

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2020, 01:46:21 PM »
From journalist Colm Keys whom is normal accurate.

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The format of inter-county competitions will not be revealed until close to phase three, in about three weeks time.
But it looks certain that it will be knock-out, using the existing provincial championship draws and will run through November and into December, if required.

Is it Connacht v Munster in the semi's this year?

Angelo

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2020, 01:48:40 PM »
From journalist Colm Keys whom is normal accurate.

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The format of inter-county competitions will not be revealed until close to phase three, in about three weeks time.
But it looks certain that it will be knock-out, using the existing provincial championship draws and will run through November and into December, if required.

Is it Connacht v Munster in the semi's this year?

Galway will enter the last 8 the All Ireland series via winning a game against a Div 4 side.

It's an absolute farce if it goes ahead as it looks like.

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2020, 02:12:09 PM »
What about splitting the 32 teams into eight groups of four, using seedings? Then everyone is guaranteed at least three championship games. Go knockout from last 16. It would only add two weeks anyway.

And yeah, I know there'd be dead rubbers and drubbings, but you're going to get that anyway.

Put it this way, is whoever is drawn against Dublin or Kerry really going to put in a couple of months hard training for a one-game-and-that's-your-season hammering?
« Last Edit: June 06, 2020, 02:13:48 PM by J70 »

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Re: 2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2020, 02:30:58 PM »
The silly season has arrived complete with asterisks.
The GAA will be deciding in 3 weeks on exact formats and whether NFL gets completed .
They might have 2 SFCs- one for asterisk Counties and 1 for non asterisk ones.

I guess in the west there wouldnít be much appetite for an open 32 county draw, same in certain parts of Munster. 😊

3 of the top 8 teams are in Connacht (same in Ulster)
Only 1 will get to the All Ireland Championship if the pre 2001 system is used.

1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....