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Eamonnca1

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Re: GAA record revenues..... why?
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2020, 05:39:29 PM »
Iíd think the real story of the GAA (football) in recent years is one of seeing routinely empty stadiums on TV, and donít forget itís only the big games that make it on TV.

Revenue might be increasing, but if footfall is dropping, then you have to question the strategy. These games can not expand internationally to replace the void. It has to come from within.

They may blame Dublinís dominance. They may blame football tactics. They may be right too. But combining extra county games with an aggressive pricing strategy, against this backdrop, well thereís the main story as far as Iím concerned.

And once someone gets away from the habit of forking out £25 to watch a county team, itís a remarkably difficult habit to pick up again.

Which of course leads players to question why they train all winter long; to play in largely empty, soulless championship matches, where the result often is an irrelevance, as both sides go through, or sometimes one is just happy to end their season. And the more who question it, the more whoíll step away. Which in turn leads to smaller crowds, and more players stepping away.

Thatís the circle of descent.

We are on it.

But revenue is up.

f**k revenue.

Too many games on TV, if you ask me.

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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2020, 05:54:41 PM »
Weíve a long way to fall yet, they were talking today on Talk Sport about Premier League teams charging families £750 so their child could be a mascot on match day.  Thought that stank to high heaven. 

I donít have a big problem with GAa making a profit - just re-invest it wisely, preferably at club level.  There would be massive demand for a simple grant process for 10-20k improvement projects. 

The bigger picture is full of problems.  For example here in Ulster there are plenty of staff on the payroll but the end product very often (not always) is literally sickening itís so negative.

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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2020, 07:10:54 PM »
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Other development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown

What's this development for?

Guess.

Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though

As stated in black and white, I would imagine it's for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown."

I see. Again, invaluable insight, thanks.

Anyone actually know what that development is for?

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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2020, 07:14:17 PM »
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.

Nothings going to change unless thereís a mass boycott of games. Wonít happen though.

Oh please. You make it sound like there's a board of directors getting million Euro bonuses. Once overheads are paid, the rest of the revenue is reinvested back into the counties and the clubs. They're also open about their finances. The annual report is published on the GAA's website every year. You can go and read it right now.

If you read Mike Moynihan's book GAAconomics you'll see how the GAA does things that no other sports organization does, like playing All-Ireland final games at lower grades in Croke Park even though a tiny crowd shows up to watch. Those events run at a loss, but they do it for social reasons because of the honour of playing in Croke Parl.

"Grab All Association" my ass. Save your outrage for the GPA. They're the boys who go around openly bragging about the millions of dollars they're going to raise with their smash-and-grab trips to the US.

My issue is, like FIFA, the GAA are becoming more distanced from the average fan. Big money Sky deals, super 8, tier 2, ticket prices etc. Their policies are clearly having an affect, as attendances are down, less people able to watch games etc, but HQ will continue to peddle the ďeverythingís greatĒ bullshit.

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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2020, 07:15:43 PM »
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.

Very much so

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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2020, 08:11:34 PM »
The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.

Official figure was 33,848. While looking concerning compared to attendance figures in recent years, such attendance sizes for All-Ireland senior football semi-finals weren't regarded as poor over 20 years ago - all the following were held in front of attendances in Croke Park of less than 40k or just slightly above it...

* 2014 Kerry vs. Mayo - 36,256 (replay @ Gaelic Grounds, Limerick)
* 2001 Galway vs. Derry - 40,060
* 1998 Derry vs. Galway - 38,569
* 1996 Mayo vs. Kerry - 33,165
* 1995 Tyrone vs. Galway - 37,053
* 1993 Cork vs. Mayo - 30,523
* 1991 Down vs. Kerry - 40,166
* 1990 Cork vs. Roscommon - 33,165
* 1990 Meath vs. Donegal - 40,243
* 1988 Cork vs. Monaghan - 29,679
* 1988 Meath vs. Mayo - 39,023
* 1987 Cork vs. Galway - 20,229
* 1987 Meath vs. Derry - 40,285
* 1986 Tyrone vs. Galway - 26,644
* 1985 Dublin vs. Mayo - 40,295 (first game)
* 1984 Dublin vs. Tyrone - 39,915
* 1984 Kerry vs. Galway - 19,248

I've decided to arbitrarily end it at the centenary year, coinciding with the season after the Dublin "Dirty Dozen" won in 1983.

A couple of years will show wherever that Tyrone vs. Kerry 2019 attendance was an anomaly or a sign of patrons being less inclined to travel to matches. I've said for a long time now that Irish people in general are event junkies, and thus don't be inclined to "follow" sports teams in a league as might be the case elsewhere - it's the want for the big day out - this was somewhat shaded by an improving economy parallel to the introduction of a back door system that allowed a few of the less fashionable counties to gain a day in the limelight without affecting things from the old straight knockout system too much. What still needs time to factor in includes the dominance of Dublin, and wherever the "Super 8s" system is trying to blood too much out of a group of patrons that are "event junkies" etc. not to mention other changes lined up from this year. Also worth taking into account the disposable income available for people/families to attend games. 
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2020, 08:50:57 PM »
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.

Very much so

47K at a Leinster final between Meath and Dublin.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/martin-breheny-breaks-down-the-attendance-figures-so-far-in-this-years-football-and-hurling-championships-38214895.html



Attendances are generally down but revenue is up.

Which means the game is becoming more about the people that can afford to go to games.


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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2020, 09:09:14 PM »
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020?  Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?

I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.

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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2020, 09:11:47 PM »
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020?  Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?

I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.

U2 and Westlife busy.

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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2020, 09:12:42 PM »
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.

Very much so

Now we know Martin Carney's username  ;D

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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2020, 10:42:00 PM »
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!

Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.

Is it any wonder I take a drink?

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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2020, 12:37:47 AM »
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Other development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown

What's this development for?

Guess.

Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though

As stated in black and white, I would imagine it's for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown."

I see. Again, invaluable insight, thanks.

Anyone actually know what that development is for?

I would imagine the Dubs??

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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2020, 03:27:59 AM »
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020?  Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?

I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.

Euro 2020

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Peter McKenna revealed that Croke Park seems set not to host any major concerts this summer with the new multi-country hosting model for Euro 2020 acting as a barrier for acts who would embark on European tours.

ďThe bands are not travelling,Ē remarked the stadiumís director.

ďThe big touring caravans as they were are not doing Europe because the 2020 Euros have sucked up so many cities. I mean itís not just in one venue, itís in 20 or 12 different cities. So that has taken the value of a European tour off of big bands.Ē 

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« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2020, 07:13:09 AM »
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020?  Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?

I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.

Euro 2020

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Peter McKenna revealed that Croke Park seems set not to host any major concerts this summer with the new multi-country hosting model for Euro 2020 acting as a barrier for acts who would embark on European tours.

ďThe bands are not travelling,Ē remarked the stadiumís director.

ďThe big touring caravans as they were are not doing Europe because the 2020 Euros have sucked up so many cities. I mean itís not just in one venue, itís in 20 or 12 different cities. So that has taken the value of a European tour off of big bands.Ē 
Nathan Carter could fit in a Drumcondra date on his current Irish tour.

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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2020, 08:00:49 AM »
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020?  Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?

I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.

Euro 2020

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Peter McKenna revealed that Croke Park seems set not to host any major concerts this summer with the new multi-country hosting model for Euro 2020 acting as a barrier for acts who would embark on European tours.

ďThe bands are not travelling,Ē remarked the stadiumís director.

ďThe big touring caravans as they were are not doing Europe because the 2020 Euros have sucked up so many cities. I mean itís not just in one venue, itís in 20 or 12 different cities. So that has taken the value of a European tour off of big bands.Ē 

Thanks GH.