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« Reply #3000 on: April 03, 2020, 05:37:11 PM »
There's months in this yet. Months.

I don't think there is a complete understanding of how people are catching this at all.

The penny hasn't dropped for some yet.

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« Reply #3001 on: April 03, 2020, 05:53:36 PM »
Sadly 22 more deaths in ROI today, bringing total to 120, 424 new cases confirmed 4,273 in total

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« Reply #3002 on: April 03, 2020, 06:31:59 PM »
until vaccine becomes widespread shut downs and isolation is the only preventative measure (medicine). They'll be no mass gathering this year unfortunately.

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« Reply #3003 on: April 03, 2020, 06:55:32 PM »
I wonder how well our civilization is going to withstand this. Will countries like the UK stay in one piece? Will the EU stay together? Will central banks be tolerant of the debt that builds up and refrain from "punishing" countries that run it up? Will the US wake the hell up and hold a constitutional convention to fix its shortcomings or will it go on with its delusions of being the world's best country at everything? Will manufacturing industry be more distributed rather than everyone relying on China to make everything?

What kind of a world are we looking at on the other side of this?

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« Reply #3004 on: April 03, 2020, 06:58:13 PM »
I wonder how well our civilization is going to withstand this. Will countries like the UK stay in one piece? Will the EU stay together? Will central banks be tolerant of the debt that builds up and refrain from "punishing" countries that run it up? Will the US wake the hell up and hold a constitutional convention to fix its shortcomings or will it go on with its delusions of being the world's best country at everything? Will manufacturing industry be more distributed rather than everyone relying on China to make everything?

What kind of a world are we looking at on the other side of this?

Nothing will change in the long run, hopefully theyíll put more money into the NHS , prevention and being able to shut things down quicker
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« Reply #3005 on: April 03, 2020, 07:15:37 PM »
I think plenty will change. There is a recession coming like never before and then who the hell knows when this will clear and people can have some sense of normality. Normal has a new barometer.

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« Reply #3006 on: April 03, 2020, 07:17:49 PM »
There's months in this yet. Months.

I don't think there is a complete understanding of how people are catching this at all.

The thing that beat Singapore's efforts was the transmission before people became symptomatic. From SARS experience they deployed temperature testing, but this pox is transmitted before you have a temperature, if you ever get a temperature.  This makes it is very difficult.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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« Reply #3007 on: April 03, 2020, 08:25:24 PM »
I think plenty will change. There is a recession coming like never before and then who the hell knows when this will clear and people can have some sense of normality. Normal has a new barometer.

Struggling to remember no recessions!

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« Reply #3008 on: April 03, 2020, 08:26:21 PM »
I heard today about someone I know through my running club here in New York has died of Covid. 51 years old, no underlying health conditions and he finished his 83rd marathon last November. His cousin posted about his death on Facebook, he was diagnosed but seemed to be recovering but then this.

"This week started off well, still feeling like he was slowly recovering. But Wednesday was a sudden setback, and he spent most of the day in bed. By 4:30am yesterday he was in the ER with some breathing issues. 13 hours later we lost him."

I ran with him quite a few times, he ran around the same middle of the pack pace that I did and as over the last few years he was running multiple marathons a year he was always in shape. I have been working from home for the past 2 weeks so had virtually no chance to pick up anything but in the back of my mind was "Well even if I catch it, it's only really bad for the over 65s". I guess I'll stop thinking that now.

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« Reply #3009 on: April 03, 2020, 08:29:57 PM »
Years of DUP and SF under-funding the NHS and then not governing for 3 years has left us in a terrible place. They then shunned the health portfolio. Real leadership. Real integrity.
But SF base will love this confrontational MO'N. But people will die I hear you say? This party is comfortable with unnecessary deaths if they can strike a blow against Unionism.

Agreed

I genuinely don't believe that is the case here. I am not a big fan of SF but have seen enough posts from you two to suggest you hate them and that's fair enough but I just feel that, and I rarely feel this about any politician, she is actually being genuine here and not point scoring.

You donít believe that underfunding the NHS and keeping government locked up hasnít hampered the Coronavirus response?
Itís debatable as to her reasons for grandstanding now Iíll concede that and they may be genuine but whatever about that, this last 8 or more years of firstly mis-rule and lately 3 years of no-rule has left our Health Service the worst of all 4 regions. That cannot be disputed. MOíN and others should take responsibility.

It certainly has but the blame for that lies at the door of George Osbourne.

IIRC around the christmas of the RHI scandal breaking, the SDLP and Alliance at the time were giving the Shinners grief for not pulling the plug on Arlene and the DUP. Then when they did it they're wrong too.

Can't have it both ways unless the memory is selective.

No. No it doesnít. It was the executive who spent / mis spent the money. Donít believe the SF line! There was plenty of money to safely staff the NHS. Thereís no extra money now and yet they committed to pay parity! The money was skimmed off onto SF and DUP SIF schemes. Back doored into party loyalists pockets.
f**k sake people need to wake up!

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« Reply #3010 on: April 03, 2020, 08:48:18 PM »
Years of DUP and SF under-funding the NHS and then not governing for 3 years has left us in a terrible place. They then shunned the health portfolio. Real leadership. Real integrity.
But SF base will love this confrontational MO'N. But people will die I hear you say? This party is comfortable with unnecessary deaths if they can strike a blow against Unionism.

Agreed

I genuinely don't believe that is the case here. I am not a big fan of SF but have seen enough posts from you two to suggest you hate them and that's fair enough but I just feel that, and I rarely feel this about any politician, she is actually being genuine here and not point scoring.

You donít believe that underfunding the NHS and keeping government locked up hasnít hampered the Coronavirus response?
Itís debatable as to her reasons for grandstanding now Iíll concede that and they may be genuine but whatever about that, this last 8 or more years of firstly mis-rule and lately 3 years of no-rule has left our Health Service the worst of all 4 regions. That cannot be disputed. MOíN and others should take responsibility.

It certainly has but the blame for that lies at the door of George Osbourne.

IIRC around the christmas of the RHI scandal breaking, the SDLP and Alliance at the time were giving the Shinners grief for not pulling the plug on Arlene and the DUP. Then when they did it they're wrong too.

Can't have it both ways unless the memory is selective.

No. No it doesnít. It was the executive who spent / mis spent the money. Donít believe the SF line! There was plenty of money to safely staff the NHS. Thereís no extra money now and yet they committed to pay parity! The money was skimmed off onto SF and DUP SIF schemes. Back doored into party loyalists pockets.
f**k sake people need to wake up!
Never mind the abuse of the RHI scheme because Westminister Govt. Was paying . I'm sure it is red flagged in Downing St.

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« Reply #3011 on: April 03, 2020, 09:47:12 PM »
There's months in this yet. Months.

I don't think there is a complete understanding of how people are catching this at all.

The thing that beat Singapore's efforts was the transmission before people became symptomatic. From SARS experience they deployed temperature testing, but this pox is transmitted before you have a temperature, if you ever get a temperature.  This makes it is very difficult.
the clusters in the nursing homes down south are the main place people are dying without even getting near a hospital or ICU

there must be agency staff, or something transmitting the virus into the various nursing homes?
or maybe its the fact that private nursing homes generally cut corners on most aspects of staffing and protective gear and so there aren't the correct protocols in place

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« Reply #3012 on: April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM »
There's months in this yet. Months.

I don't think there is a complete understanding of how people are catching this at all.

The thing that beat Singapore's efforts was the transmission before people became symptomatic. From SARS experience they deployed temperature testing, but this pox is transmitted before you have a temperature, if you ever get a temperature.  This makes it is very difficult.
the clusters in the nursing homes down south are the main place people are dying without even getting near a hospital or ICU

there must be agency staff, or something transmitting the virus into the various nursing homes?
or maybe its the fact that private nursing homes generally cut corners on most aspects of staffing and protective gear and so there aren't the correct protocols in place
So youíre looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, whoís at fault?
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« Reply #3013 on: April 03, 2020, 10:10:37 PM »
So youíre looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, whoís at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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« Reply #3014 on: April 03, 2020, 10:29:58 PM »
So youíre looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, whoís at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.

So if it was always going to happen then why were they not prepared? Last one was 1918, the worst thing about this is the experts that f**king know everything, like the plonker who said you should have bigger profit margins and saved all youíre pennies !

We all had that mate growing up, who thought he knew everything, not you mate now of course, cause they were dicks!
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