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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #2400 on: March 26, 2020, 03:33:28 PM »
The Westies are on the right side anyway


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« Reply #2401 on: March 26, 2020, 04:04:47 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

No but their leading employees down the path that they will be furloughed when in fact there is no guarantee whatsoever they will be - pitting employer against employee at the most difficult of times.

Hearing that employers arenít happy with the furloughed proposal and when looked at in depth they will not come out well and could close many companies. They still have to pay tax, pension and ni contributions whilst they have effectively ceased trading, and so no money coming in. There doesnít appear to be an opt out if you do put employees on furlough, and there is no time limit on how long this is all going to last. Iím not sure how most companies could sign up to that. Whilst it appears good for the employee, it appears to be of little help to the employer and the longer the lockdown goes on, it will ultimately close companies anyway.

Has anyone else looked into it or sought advice? The government need to provide a better understanding of how this is going to work before companies can sign up to it.
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What happens if this takes longer than three months to sort? It doesn't add up where I work to pay 50 employees employees £160 000 over the next 3 months with nothing coming in, because accounts will not open to pay us.

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« Reply #2402 on: March 26, 2020, 04:37:32 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

No but their leading employees down the path that they will be furloughed when in fact there is no guarantee whatsoever they will be - pitting employer against employee at the most difficult of times.

Hearing that employers arenít happy with the furloughed proposal and when looked at in depth they will not come out well and could close many companies. They still have to pay tax, pension and ni contributions whilst they have effectively ceased trading, and so no money coming in. There doesnít appear to be an opt out if you do put employees on furlough, and there is no time limit on how long this is all going to last. Iím not sure how most companies could sign up to that. Whilst it appears good for the employee, it appears to be of little help to the employer and the longer the lockdown goes on, it will ultimately close companies anyway.

Has anyone else looked into it or sought advice? The government need to provide a better understanding of how this is going to work before companies can sign up to it.
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What happens if this takes longer than three months to sort? It doesn't add up where I work to pay 50 employees employees £160 000 over the next 3 months with nothing coming in, because accounts will not open to pay us.

Business is fucked. This has driven the economy off a cliff. If you have a job at the end of this you'll be lucky.

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #2403 on: March 26, 2020, 05:40:47 PM »
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« Reply #2404 on: March 26, 2020, 05:46:21 PM »
What's the thoughts on the chancellor's announcement?

I fall in between the cracks as have only been self employed for a few months. Feel sick  :-\

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #2405 on: March 26, 2020, 05:48:15 PM »
Def a few gonna miss out. Sorry to hear Walter.

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« Reply #2406 on: March 26, 2020, 06:01:37 PM »
Guy who helped compile Imperial College report reduces death estimate figure from 250k to 20k maybe not even. Still a lot but helluva difference....

Cant copy and paste but search Caleb Howe on twitter

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« Reply #2407 on: March 26, 2020, 06:08:31 PM »
Guy who helped compile Imperial College report reduces death estimate figure from 250k to 20k maybe not even. Still a lot but helluva difference....

Cant copy and paste but search Caleb Howe on twitter

I would presume this revision was made following the changes in the governmentís response strategy from the earlier madness, which were no doubt influenced by the Imperial College report ( even Trump was, at least for a time!).

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« Reply #2408 on: March 26, 2020, 06:54:42 PM »
Guy who helped compile Imperial College report reduces death estimate figure from 250k to 20k maybe not even. Still a lot but helluva difference....

Cant copy and paste but search Caleb Howe on twitter

Who?

Current measures have stopped it growing quicker, but its still growing at a steady ~20% per day.

There are now about 11,500 cases. That's getting into ICU thresholds.

**hopefully** the lockdown will see the growth figures decline and turn negative. Need strong evidence of this starting to happen within the next week or things get really bad.


edit: We aren't near the middle of the woods yet, never mind nearing the exit!

edit2: Clarified growth figure changes
« Last Edit: March 26, 2020, 08:19:13 PM by RadioGAAGAA »
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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #2410 on: March 26, 2020, 08:03:47 PM »
Yup

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #2411 on: March 26, 2020, 08:22:15 PM »
Guy who helped compile Imperial College report reduces death estimate figure from 250k to 20k maybe not even. Still a lot but helluva difference....

Cant copy and paste but search Caleb Howe on twitter

Who?

Current measures have stopped it growing quicker, but its still growing at a steady ~20% per day.

There are now about 11,500 cases. That's getting into ICU thresholds.

**hopefully** the lockdown will see the growth figures decline and turn negative. Need strong evidence of this starting to happen within the next week or things get really bad.


edit: We aren't near the middle of the woods yet, never mind nearing the exit!

edit2: Clarified growth figure changes

You must put in at least one positive point in your posts Radio, as must of them are morbid  8)
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« Reply #2412 on: March 26, 2020, 08:42:06 PM »
Thatís the same here and England Iíd presume, so are people in England not bothering about being tested?

It isn't. If you phone your GP he'll check if you are seriously ill; if not then that is it he'll say take a panadol every 4 hours,  if you are ill then you go to hospital and then get tested.

So if you're not seriously ill then why get tested? If youíve cold symptoms then best to stay in and not expose anyone?

If youíre concerned and tell your GP heíll arrange a test .. the guy I know wasnít seriously ill and recovered but had the test, so youíre saying they are not testing unless they are seriously ill?

GP won't arrange a test if you ask.
As of yesterday a bad asthmatic is showing all of the synptoms.
He feels like complete shit....in his words like he has been hit by a lorry.

Was told to double the intake of his inhaler and rest.
If he gets seriously ill he needs to call Doc and tell him.

That's it.

His partner is now showing synptoms as is his two kids.

All will simply be isolated the same as him.

It's a shambles in the UK

The asthmatic that was ill last week is still suffering.
Had to be rushed to hospital today where they tested him for a number of things but not Covid.
He actually asked why and they said their direction is to rule everything else out before doing the test.

Gave him steroids to open the airways and sent him home tonight asking  him to return if he doesn't improve.

Showing all of the synptoms of Covid.

Can only imagine the true number of cases in the 6 counties if this is being adhered to.

Scary stuff

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #2413 on: March 26, 2020, 08:50:30 PM »
See below from Eamon Mccann.
Still think Robin Swan is doing a good job? I don't.
We are under prepared and not doing enough to get prepared for this surge.


The Tories ordered 10,000 ventilators from Dyson. The North is to get only 600. Nurses and health workers here said our health service was one of the least prepared to deal with this crisis. We need thousands of ventilators not hundreds.

Last week Minister of Heath Robin Swann said he'd ordered 40 for a total in the North of 179. Pathetic!

Yesterday he announced 650 were being ordered. There's clearly no understanding of the threat people face and no clear leadership coming from Westminster or the Stormont Executive. This will cost lives. And this is made all the more disastrous given there is one of the biggest ventilator manufacturers in the world making them in Galway.

Another clear example of how an integrated all-Ireland public health strategy could save lives.

We need to keep shouting very loud for urgent action.

We need thousands of ventilators and we can get them.

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« Reply #2414 on: March 26, 2020, 08:55:17 PM »
How many are the firm in Galway making ?

I take it the south has demanded that they are used in the south?
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