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« Reply #2340 on: March 25, 2020, 10:06:51 PM »
With most people stuck at home and sport suit down there is SFA happening anywhere. There is very little news in the newspapers either.
I still buy 2 papers a day but it is so obvious how far old media is behind social media in such a fast moving situation, wasting my money tbh. Irish News is on thin ice atm!

I made a New Year's resolution to stop buying the Irish News - it's going downhill badly.  Nothing but ful page ads and holiday pull outs.  Last straw,was they kept putting only one staple into it.  Cutting costs everywhere.

They must be, like all papers, getting squeezed by the net.

The problem with newspapers in the modern world is by the time they get the stories out and printed, it's old news.

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« Reply #2341 on: March 25, 2020, 10:22:20 PM »
Online subscription is £15 for 4 weeks , which is reasonable value and saves going to the shop on a daily basis.  Agree some of the quality is poor, not enough in depth stories . One recent positive is the two day story /  coverage of GAA people  e.g Sean mc greevy this week.

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« Reply #2342 on: March 25, 2020, 10:32:58 PM »
With most people stuck at home and sport suit down there is SFA happening anywhere. There is very little news in the newspapers either.
I still buy 2 papers a day but it is so obvious how far old media is behind social media in such a fast moving situation, wasting my money tbh. Irish News is on thin ice atm!

I made a New Year's resolution to stop buying the Irish News - it's going downhill badly.  Nothing but ful page ads and holiday pull outs.  Last straw,was they kept putting only one staple into it.  Cutting costs everywhere.

They must be, like all papers, getting squeezed by the net.

In my day there was no staple.

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« Reply #2343 on: March 25, 2020, 10:33:28 PM »
Why is Germany getting off relatively light in comparison to other big European countries?

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« Reply #2344 on: March 25, 2020, 10:41:06 PM »
Why is Germany getting off relatively light in comparison to other big European countries?

Their fatality rate is about the same as ROI because they are testing a  lot of people and their case numbers have some basis in reality.
The UK has supposedly less cases, but two and a half times the fatalities because they do not count the cases.
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« Reply #2345 on: March 25, 2020, 10:50:57 PM »
That's correct , but UK, France and other nations have asked
the Germans about this, and wanted to know did their high number of ventilators play a part. The Germans informed them that was not the case as they only had a small percentage of ventilators taken up but they expected that to play a part in later weeks. They suspected the disparity in death rate was a combination of testing more and also the fact that a lot of their early positive tests were from schools and younger people coming back from skiing in Northern Italy. The very demographic that was fairing better under the virus. They informed them that they fully expected to track the same way as Italy in the next week or two.

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« Reply #2346 on: March 25, 2020, 10:55:14 PM »
I get the testing and plenty of it. But, the testing  canít stop the spread it will only inform you how many have it and how many donít?

Yes if people know they donít have it then isolate and dig in, but if you are tested early will that help the treatment? Not an expert
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« Reply #2347 on: March 25, 2020, 11:00:39 PM »
Why is Germany getting off relatively light in comparison to other big European countries?

Most Germans take high doses of Vitamin C, as well as other dietary supplements.

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« Reply #2348 on: March 25, 2020, 11:07:10 PM »
I get the testing and plenty of it. But, the testing  canít stop the spread it will only inform you how many have it and how many donít?

Yes if people know they donít have it then isolate and dig in, but if you are tested early will that help the treatment? Not an expert

If you test and follow up the contacts and tell them to stay at home then the thing cannot spread.
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« Reply #2349 on: March 25, 2020, 11:17:34 PM »
I get the testing and plenty of it. But, the testing  canít stop the spread it will only inform you how many have it and how many donít?

Yes if people know they donít have it then isolate and dig in, but if you are tested early will that help the treatment? Not an expert

If you test and follow up the contacts and tell them to stay at home then the thing cannot spread.

But are you not just testing people who have symptoms in the south? And if they have it, they have it, and if they were in contact with others theyíll  have it.

Iím talking as to why Germany have less fatalities with four times the cases
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« Reply #2350 on: March 25, 2020, 11:17:50 PM »
I think with Germany is they focus testing people while they're alive rather than waste tests on people who are dead. Therefore their death toll could be much higher.

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« Reply #2351 on: March 25, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
But are you not just testing people who have symptoms in the south? And if they have it, they have it, and if they were in contact with others theyíll  have it.

Exactly. And in the South there are 1200 people tracking down those contacts and getting them tested and telling them to isolate.

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Iím talking as to why Germany have less fatalities with four times the cases

I told you, in the UK they only test you if you end up in the hospital. In  Germany, likely only 1 in 6 of them go to hospital.
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« Reply #2352 on: March 25, 2020, 11:38:22 PM »
But are you not just testing people who have symptoms in the south? And if they have it, they have it, and if they were in contact with others theyíll  have it.

Exactly. And in the South there are 1200 people tracking down those contacts and getting them tested and telling them to isolate.

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Iím talking as to why Germany have less fatalities with four times the cases

I told you, in the UK they only test you if you end up in the hospital. In  Germany, likely only 1 in 6 of them go to hospital.

Self isolation is the best way, thatís what will stop it spreading. Letís continue to do that and find a vaccine
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« Reply #2353 on: March 25, 2020, 11:48:30 PM »
3 weeks ago the US had 125 confirmed cases. Today that number is around 65,000 and that nutjob wants the country back to business over Easter.

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« Reply #2354 on: March 26, 2020, 12:04:59 AM »
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