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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7500 on: September 04, 2020, 11:11:21 AM »
Not having thousands of cars and packed buses and trains piling in City Centres at the same time has to be a positive.
Can public and private organisations not provide some sort of "hubs" in various locations for those who can do all or most of their work in them?
Could be a great boon for a small town if even 30 or 40 people from the area were based there even 4 days a week rather than stuck in the middle of Dublin, Galway, Belfast or wherever.
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« Reply #7501 on: September 04, 2020, 11:34:40 AM »
Not having thousands of cars and packed buses and trains piling in City Centres at the same time has to be a positive.
Can public and private organisations not provide some sort of "hubs" in various locations for those who can do all or most of their work in them?
Could be a great boon for a small town if even 30 or 40 people from the area were based there even 4 days a week rather than stuck in the middle of Dublin, Galway, Belfast or wherever.

I would see this as a major positive potential outcome of the remote working. It could keep some people working in the area they grew up & having a positive knock on effect for small local businesses, schools, clubs etc, whilst not putting a strain on large urban areas, housing, traffic management,  schools, healthcare etc.
Conversely J70 point about young ones building relationships with co workers is a valid point for mental wellbeing.

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7502 on: September 04, 2020, 11:35:05 AM »
Not having thousands of cars and packed buses and trains piling in City Centres at the same time has to be a positive.
Can public and private organisations not provide some sort of "hubs" in various locations for those who can do all or most of their work in them?
Could be a great boon for a small town if even 30 or 40 people from the area were based there even 4 days a week rather than stuck in the middle of Dublin, Galway, Belfast or wherever.

That is what is starting to be discussed. Locations close to higher eduction campus's too so they can recruit graduates.

I'm not sure you'll see small towns benefit from opening hubs directly but more that they suddenly become commuter options for these hubs.

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« Reply #7503 on: September 04, 2020, 11:39:00 AM »
This kinda flies in the face of what is being proposed for Belfast mind you?

45k square metres of office space - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54017655

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« Reply #7504 on: September 04, 2020, 12:56:48 PM »
Maybe the tide is going out on those kind of things?

Yes bigfella even if you only had regional hubs it would help keep people in rural areas e.g one in Longford would enable a lot of people in that County plus a lot of Ros, Leitrim and Cavan too to stay at home. With hubs rather than "WFH" there'd be a social element too.
By the way I see that Paul Reid the HSE CEO lives in Laythrum.
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« Reply #7505 on: September 04, 2020, 01:00:15 PM »
This kinda flies in the face of what is being proposed for Belfast mind you?

45k square metres of office space - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54017655

Belfast needs a serious residential injection if it is going to survive as a thriving city centre not more office space that no-one will want.

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« Reply #7506 on: September 04, 2020, 04:00:15 PM »
Because we have to get back to normal. Why should shopkeepers, nurses, doctors & teachers have to go to work but you lazy feckers don’t? People are happy to send their kids into packed schools but daren’t dream about returning to their own workplaces. Scandalous. I thought we were all in this together. You are taking advantage of a global pandemic to suit your own lazy little needs. You should be ashamed.


Or at least, that’s the type of shite other people had thrown at them when they raised back to work concerns.
That’s an unbelievable statement. Who are the lazy feckers you’re referring to?  There’s any amount of evidence to demonstrate that people wfh are now more productive than when they were office based. What evidence do you have to support the lazy feckers argument?  What do you work at? Are you working from home? Are you a lazy fecker?
I thought you had turned a corner with the “late night” posts. Read the last line again. It may indicate that I don’t actually believe the other stuff I wrote but was simply pointing out what bollix people were throwing about when others raised any concerns about returning to their workplaces.
Aw come on now, it wasn’t that late! I didn’t read the last lime at all hence my misunderstanding of your post. Sorry about that. As the man himself would say ‘I stand corrected’
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« Reply #7507 on: September 04, 2020, 08:28:10 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/now-for-the-tricky-bit-we-need-to-move-from-a-state-of-fear-to-being-cautious-1.4346915?mode=amp

Shortall set out three ways the Government “is not playing its part – the need to honour its commitment to ensure we have an effective testing and tracing system in place; to ensure we have proper controls at our airports and ports; and to ensure that open information and data are made available, and that they would drive the policy in this area”.

Ireland’s response to Covid-19 was forged, understandably, in a time of crisis. Six months on, we still have a patchwork of regulations, guidance notes and laws that are often mutually inconsistent or lack a clear evidence-based rationale. This was clear during the controversy over Phil Hogan’s involvement in the Oireachtas Golf Society dinner, and the inconsistencies also featured in the kickback in Kildare over local restrictions imposed on the county.

The National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) has been clear in fulfilling its public health remit but, above them, the co-ordination of actions has been haphazard, particularly since the change of government.

This matters, because the actions needed to stem the outbreak impinge on so many areas of life, and involve multiple Government departments and agencies. It is hard to think of a single decision on Covid-19 that the Government has made so far that wasn’t just a rubber-stamping of NPHET’s recommendations.
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« Reply #7508 on: September 06, 2020, 06:11:08 PM »
My weekly update.

Cases in the ROI this week - 921 (114 more than last week but a lot more testing done)
Deaths reported - 1 (that death happened in June)

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7509 on: September 07, 2020, 12:42:25 AM »

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« Reply #7511 on: September 07, 2020, 12:03:21 PM »
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Something I've long thought is happening.

Either this is the case or the mask wearing and handwashing is stopping the spread to the 5 or more close contacts for each infected person as the 5 contacts certainly aren't getting infected based on the "daily" stats

I only taper in and out of this thing these days as it's not good for the soul, but a few weeks back it was said that one young buck had up to 50 "close contacts" (majority I assume would be their young bucks / young wans) - it would be useful if we got the stats as to how many of his close contacts were infected. The demography etc of this citizen should be issued and his / her living conditions.

That would be the real "R" number there, especially among the healthy and low risk citizens. This is what the "professors" ought to be studying and risk assessing instead we have a "professor" from UCC given air time saying we should've stayed shut down longer back in June to "clear" the virus. He is lucky to have a handy number in UCC.
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« Reply #7512 on: September 07, 2020, 12:52:25 PM »
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Something I've long thought is happening.

Either this is the case or the mask wearing and handwashing is stopping the spread to the 5 or more close contacts for each infected person as the 5 contacts certainly aren't getting infected based on the "daily" stats

Masks etc do reduce transmission and it seems likely that they reduce the viral load, so even if you get a touch of the virus the immune system is able to mop it up.


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That would be the real "R" number there, especially among the healthy and low risk citizens. This is what the "professors" ought to be studying and risk assessing instead we have a "professor" from UCC given air time saying we should've stayed shut down longer back in June to "clear" the virus. He is lucky to have a handy number in UCC.

Nevertheless the numbers continue to increase each week and you had hospital staff etc getting cases in recent weeks. That trend can only lead to problems eventually.
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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7513 on: September 07, 2020, 05:13:38 PM »
The last 7 days compared to the previous week in the ROI had 114 extra cases from 12,027 extra tests conducted.

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7514 on: September 08, 2020, 05:50:56 PM »
307 cases in the Republic of today. 182 were from Dublin. They need to lock Dublin down.