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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7005 on: July 23, 2020, 01:47:08 PM »
Killeavy have a positive test now too. Turning into a right old mess.

IGAA ahould have put out a statement in April saying no GAA for the year.

It's only going to get worse as things open up.

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« Reply #7006 on: July 23, 2020, 01:59:13 PM »
After Horan's interview in May we were inundated with GAA pundits, managers, players etc calling for a return to activities.

Chances are that most County Championships will suffer disruption.
If a club has a last round group game, Quarter Final or Semi Final coming up and have to shut down for the preceding 4 or 5 days it would be very unfair to expect the game to be played.

On another note it's very disappointing to hear that up to 25% of "contacrs" aren't presenting for tests.
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« Reply #7007 on: July 23, 2020, 02:22:52 PM »
Killeavy have a positive test now too. Turning into a right old mess.

IGAA ahould have put out a statement in April saying no GAA for the year.

It's only going to get worse as things open up.

I don't agree. If people wish to play then they should be allowed do so. The problem here is the competitions where someone goes to a Karaoke bar and his team get quarantined holding up the whole championship. Perhaps only leagues without relegation should be played and if there are a few gaps then no harm done. Or have something completely different, like street leagues.
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« Reply #7008 on: July 23, 2020, 02:25:11 PM »
What about people who get exposed through day to day work though? Granted the karaoke one maybe people should have known better but that isn't always the case here.

I'd agree on the rest though - a more recreational slant should have been put on it like no relegation from leagues or something. This was the GAA's chance to go back to bread and butter here's why we play the game and they have failed IMO.

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« Reply #7009 on: July 23, 2020, 02:41:51 PM »
Indeed, some one might work in health care and get it while helping the rest of us. But the relentless competition in the GAA is sometimes an obstacle, where anything that falls short of a championship game is basically characterised as a waste of time.
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« Reply #7010 on: July 23, 2020, 03:07:43 PM »
14 in hospital as of last nights  HSE update.




Of that 14, 7 of them are in ICU and 4 are ventilated.

Mid April there was close to 900 people in hospital with the virus in ROI.

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« Reply #7011 on: July 23, 2020, 04:06:22 PM »
Wouldn't like to be one of the 11 though.
I'd imagine most of those testing positive nowadays are younger/stronger people compared to the early days when it was tearing through nursing homes etc.
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« Reply #7012 on: July 23, 2020, 11:27:48 PM »
Now over 4 million cases have been recorded in the USA.

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« Reply #7013 on: July 24, 2020, 12:03:56 AM »
Now over 4 million cases have been recorded in the USA.

And numbers increasing in 39 states, so it isn't over yet.

1900 cases in one day in Isreal, you can really lose it with this virus if you do not keep on the straight and narrow.
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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7014 on: July 25, 2020, 01:18:47 AM »
The r number is between 0.7 and 1.4 now.

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7015 on: July 25, 2020, 07:57:48 PM »
Spainís  2nd wave could be imminent.

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« Reply #7016 on: July 25, 2020, 08:10:50 PM »
It's unfortunately not as simple as that RadioGAAGAA

It pretty needs to be looked at that simply - either make international connections digital or run a strong risk of reintroducing the thing en mass to the population. Neither are good options, which is least worse?

And what about our specialized manufacturing industry where we need to send highly trained technical engineers to commission and set up the equipment that is being exported?

Really specialised equipment can't be commissioned by a sub-contractor.  The complex equipment we sell and manufacture cannot be commissioned by someone who hasn't been with us for a number of years.  What will happen is that if we can't commission it we will lose sales as foreign customers will purchase from a competitor who can attend site.  This wouldn't be good for NI businesses and exporting companies who fall into this (probably small) subset of exporters). 
I guess this is the challenge that the Powers that Be face.  Totally closing down international links would really hammer the economy of a country, so they are trying to walk a tightrope.

It'd need to be done remotely and/or by bringing in subcontractors that are near where the gear is being setup. I know that's really crap and will mean a long slow laborious process which pleases no-one when compared to the norm... but that is still lightyears better than more shutdowns.

A real tightrope as you say, but surely a Govt exemption system could be put in place with approved firms and a tangible trackable quarantine system in place guaranteeing self isolation on return. Ie if individual breaks quarantine, the firm loses approved status

It could be done.
External travel really needs to be hammered & driven down, albeit we cannot completely close off. Aviation industry sacrafice is a price worth paying

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« Reply #7017 on: July 25, 2020, 09:01:03 PM »
Spainís  2nd wave could be imminent.

You have to take into account the political backdrop in Spain. What Spain does and what Catalonia does will nearly always differ, it wants to be seperate, so as sure as Spain says back to normal service....Catalonia, beit rightly or wrongly will nearly always do the opposite and try to do whatever it needs to be seen to be different to the kings rule.

It's obviously just one thing to consider, but as always, there tends to be a political reason behind everything these days rather than the actual good of man.

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« Reply #7018 on: July 26, 2020, 01:51:16 AM »
Spainís  2nd wave could be imminent.

You have to take into account the political backdrop in Spain. What Spain does and what Catalonia does will nearly always differ, it wants to be seperate, so as sure as Spain says back to normal service....Catalonia, beit rightly or wrongly will nearly always do the opposite and try to do whatever it needs to be seen to be different to the kings rule.

It's obviously just one thing to consider, but as always, there tends to be a political reason behind everything these days rather than the actual good of man.

Spain is a federal state with much authority delegated to the autonomous communities. The extraordinary measures enforced from March on were only possible for to the national State of Emergency (Estado de alarma) that was in place at the time. That had been lifted for a month now. Spain's 4 stage emergence from lockdown left the final stage I'm the hands of the governments of each autonomous community - it's not just Madrid and Catalunya.
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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #7019 on: July 26, 2020, 05:48:45 AM »
Spainís  2nd wave could be imminent.

You have to take into account the political backdrop in Spain. What Spain does and what Catalonia does will nearly always differ, it wants to be seperate, so as sure as Spain says back to normal service....Catalonia, beit rightly or wrongly will nearly always do the opposite and try to do whatever it needs to be seen to be different to the kings rule.

It's obviously just one thing to consider, but as always, there tends to be a political reason behind everything these days rather than the actual good of man.

Spain is a federal state with much authority delegated to the autonomous communities. The extraordinary measures enforced from March on were only possible for to the national State of Emergency (Estado de alarma) that was in place at the time. That had been lifted for a month now. Spain's 4 stage emergence from lockdown left the final stage I'm the hands of the governments of each autonomous community - it's not just Madrid and Catalunya.
Lockdowns fron now on are likely to be more local. Authorities in Europe had no idea how to deal with a pandemic in March. National lockdowns are crude.
Now they are focusing on identifying superspreaders and contact tracing

Scientists at the Universities of Oxford, Warwick and Lancaster found that contact tracing could reduce the transmission rate from 3.11 people to 0.21.

For this you need adequate testing.Which was not available in March.

Castex, the new French Prime Minister, is Catalan.
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