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« Reply #2385 on: March 26, 2020, 11:38:26 AM »
Read about the woman out walking her dog, met a few teenagers apparently, one of them ran over to her to cough in her face and run away laughing to his mates.  If caught, I'd have that idiot locked up!

Bate the head of him before you hand him in please.

Some fella in Belfast up in court today over something similar to Police Officers.

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« Reply #2386 on: March 26, 2020, 11:49:59 AM »
Thereís social distancing and then over the top dangerous social distancing.

Out walking the dogs for their usual 5 mile walk today, between people stepping onto to a busy road and nearly getting wiped out to the ones wearing scarfs up to their eyes (while touching their face holding it in position) if you feel that unsafe do a few things

1) donít leave the house
2) wear a proper mask and gloves
3) work out what 2 metres or 6 foot is
4) take your dander at 5 in the morning
5) donít step onto the road, if you see someone coming towards you step in or wait on a wider path till they pass

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« Reply #2387 on: March 26, 2020, 01:19:57 PM »
Very difficult for people to listen to arlene or michelle considering they led 3 years of 'do nothing'. Those 3 years of decline in many services will 100% cost lives now. The irony when Arlene begs nhs workers to come back to work! Many of the ministers are new to their roles after a 3 year hibernation so its fairly likely they are gonna be stretched. We don't have the resources and we unlikely to have them in the coming weeks therefore we should have a policy that is as aggressive as possible in terms of isolation if we are to give the hospitals and staff a chance. Set out your stall that's its zero tolerance. If it's lives at stake when 10 teenagers are congregating then treat them like they are putting lives at risk. Prosecute them. We need society to tighten up. If we do then there will be a lot less pain in the coming months.

Do you honestly think if Stormount had been up and running for 3 years our NHS would be in a better place?
We have severe restrictions on what we can do as we are depending on a Westminister handout. Whether or not our MLA's were sitting would not have increased the money required.
In my opinion, what will matter is how our MLA's and Executive manage this now with the resources we've got (or can borrow).
I think Robin Swann is out of his depth completely, though I don't necessarily mean that in a detrimental way. I think most people would be out of their depth currently, but personally I hardly ever heard of him before this crisis so not sure he'd have been the right person to steer our response on this issue.

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« Reply #2388 on: March 26, 2020, 01:23:32 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

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« Reply #2389 on: March 26, 2020, 01:34:59 PM »
No one would be brilliant at this, the health minister is the worst job itís like getting to be the N.I sec or being sent to the Russian front
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« Reply #2390 on: March 26, 2020, 01:40:00 PM »
Id say the likes of Swann and Sunak (sp?) be well chuffed at moving into their new roles just days/weeks before the biggest crisis in their lifetimes...
although both are coming out well so far

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« Reply #2391 on: March 26, 2020, 01:45:17 PM »
Very difficult for people to listen to arlene or michelle considering they led 3 years of 'do nothing'. Those 3 years of decline in many services will 100% cost lives now. The irony when Arlene begs nhs workers to come back to work! Many of the ministers are new to their roles after a 3 year hibernation so its fairly likely they are gonna be stretched. We don't have the resources and we unlikely to have them in the coming weeks therefore we should have a policy that is as aggressive as possible in terms of isolation if we are to give the hospitals and staff a chance. Set out your stall that's its zero tolerance. If it's lives at stake when 10 teenagers are congregating then treat them like they are putting lives at risk. Prosecute them. We need society to tighten up. If we do then there will be a lot less pain in the coming months.

Do you honestly think if Stormount had been up and running for 3 years our NHS would be in a better place?
We have severe restrictions on what we can do as we are depending on a Westminister handout. Whether or not our MLA's were sitting would not have increased the money required.
In my opinion, what will matter is how our MLA's and Executive manage this now with the resources we've got (or can borrow).
I think Robin Swann is out of his depth completely, though I don't necessarily mean that in a detrimental way. I think most people would be out of their depth currently, but personally I hardly ever heard of him before this crisis so not sure he'd have been the right person to steer our response on this issue.

I like Swann. He's doing decent job, affable person.. Yes the last 3 years has affected the NHS here. That's what the strike was about. Plus procurement was seriously curtailed. Shame on DUP/SF
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« Reply #2392 on: March 26, 2020, 01:45:31 PM »
Read about the woman out walking her dog, met a few teenagers apparently, one of them ran over to her to cough in her face and run away laughing to his mates.  If caught, I'd have that idiot locked up!

Bate the head of him before you hand him in please.

Some fella in Belfast up in court today over something similar to Police Officers.
Someone did it to the health minister Simon Harris the other day.
What a sc**bag thing to do.
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« Reply #2393 on: March 26, 2020, 01:51:09 PM »
Where would one find a four metre wide hula hoop?

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« Reply #2394 on: March 26, 2020, 01:56:09 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

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« Reply #2395 on: March 26, 2020, 02:03:08 PM »
Health was left to the UUP when the minister jobs were allocated. So SF and DUP avoided these at all costs. Is that leadership? To me definitely not.  Health as we should and will realise going forward is the number one priority. If someone wants to run our country but wants very little to do with health then it will speak volumes. Lets buy everything we possibly can to help and redirect monies projects that can be picked up down the line.

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« Reply #2396 on: March 26, 2020, 02:24:16 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

No but their leading employees down the path that they will be furloughed when in fact there is no guarantee whatsoever they will be - pitting employer against employee at the most difficult of times.


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« Reply #2397 on: March 26, 2020, 02:53:07 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

No but their leading employees down the path that they will be furloughed when in fact there is no guarantee whatsoever they will be - pitting employer against employee at the most difficult of times.

Hearing that employers arenít happy with the furloughed proposal and when looked at in depth they will not come out well and could close many companies. They still have to pay tax, pension and ni contributions whilst they have effectively ceased trading, and so no money coming in. There doesnít appear to be an opt out if you do put employees on furlough, and there is no time limit on how long this is all going to last. Iím not sure how most companies could sign up to that. Whilst it appears good for the employee, it appears to be of little help to the employer and the longer the lockdown goes on, it will ultimately close companies anyway.

Has anyone else looked into it or sought advice? The government need to provide a better understanding of how this is going to work before companies can sign up to it.

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« Reply #2398 on: March 26, 2020, 02:57:57 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

Say what you like about Swann, I think the Jury is still out on him ATM, but the CMO for this place needs his hole booted.

He was happy to follow the herd immunity plan coming from London when all along this plan didn't take into account NI and it's vastly worse off NHS (just look at the difference in waiting times prior to this virus).

I don't expect Swann, Arlene and Michelle to follow the detail but he should have known the implications of what was being proposed and followed based on the modelling coming out from Imperial College which makes it abundantly clear that NI was not part of the process.

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« Reply #2399 on: March 26, 2020, 03:15:14 PM »
I actually think Robin Swann has been excellent throughout this crisis

So much more disappointed with Arlene & Michelle - if they want to shut manufacturing & construction they should come out & say that they are not essential & can be Furloughed - any thing other than this is unsettling lip service!

Can I just ask if they have the power to do this? Would it be a vote again led by SF and the SDLP and the Unionists and Alliance go against it because Boris is saying different?
I actually think Robin Swann is coming out of this a lot more competent than most of his colleagues on the hill.

No but their leading employees down the path that they will be furloughed when in fact there is no guarantee whatsoever they will be - pitting employer against employee at the most difficult of times.

Hearing that employers arenít happy with the furloughed proposal and when looked at in depth they will not come out well and could close many companies. They still have to pay tax, pension and ni contributions whilst they have effectively ceased trading, and so no money coming in. There doesnít appear to be an opt out if you do put employees on furlough, and there is no time limit on how long this is all going to last. Iím not sure how most companies could sign up to that. Whilst it appears good for the employee, it appears to be of little help to the employer and the longer the lockdown goes on, it will ultimately close companies anyway.

Has anyone else looked into it or sought advice? The government need to provide a better understanding of how this is going to work before companies can sign up to it.

It is incredibly loosely worded - there is a rapidly growing fear among businesses that'll it'll end up shafting them - having to close a business because of social distancing is not covered & to be honest the government have been all over the place on this... stressful times!

Banking has in addition not caught up with what's been announced last week - government says funding is there - you try getting a relationship manager to approve either overdraft / loan - takes several days to then state we're unsure this qualifies under the Covid policy!