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Re: Premier League 20/21
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2020, 10:56:01 AM »
The guy's number is up. He hasn't advanced in years. He's useless and I do not understand why spurs went near him. (Though in saying that they will be nowhere near relegation if he stays I suspect)

Jose was found out in his last season at Madrid. That was 2013. Baffling how he still gets big jobs. And he will again after Tottenham get rid of him.

In fairness, he did get United a 2nd place finish. As time goes on, that does look like a fairly decent achievement (as well as Europa League).

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« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2020, 11:20:44 AM »

That 2nd place finish is nearly as impressive as any of his trophies given the dearth of quality in the side.

He's not my cup of tea but there's no denying his managerial record. The simple truth is the players he has at Spurs are a really poor bunch.

The guy's number is up. He hasn't advanced in years. He's useless and I do not understand why spurs went near him. (Though in saying that they will be nowhere near relegation if he stays I suspect)

Jose was found out in his last season at Madrid. That was 2013. Baffling how he still gets big jobs. And he will again after Tottenham get rid of him.

In fairness, he did get United a 2nd place finish. As time goes on, that does look like a fairly decent achievement (as well as Europa League).

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Re: Premier League 20/21
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2020, 12:21:22 PM »
Are Spurs really a big club?

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« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2020, 12:25:09 PM »
Are Spurs really a big club?

Definitely not.

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« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2020, 12:29:50 PM »
They're linked with Ings this morning. They would need to have a look at their MF if Winks is still getting a game.

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« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2020, 12:45:13 PM »
Agree on Winks, he's not good enough. But they have so many problems in the side. The keeper seems to make a howler every 3 or 4 games, full backs have been poor for years, the current pair Davies and Doherty aren't great, and there's a lack of creativity in midfield since Eriksen left.

Honestly think a top four finish with the current side would be an amazing acheivement and massively unlikely. As the squad stands I can't see them finishing higher than 6th unless Arsenal make a mess of things.

They're linked with Ings this morning. They would need to have a look at their MF if Winks is still getting a game.

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« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2020, 12:55:14 PM »
Are Spurs really a big club?

Watch this space. . . if they get the NFL franchise they will be a big club!

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« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2020, 01:24:02 PM »
Never understood the big club thing. What difference does it make whether they are or aren't? Ultimately to be successful they need to attract the best players,and to do that they need to offer things like money, stadium, quality of life etc. On that front they are a London club with a fantastic stadium, and long-term once the revenues ramp up they'll be in a pretty good position.

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« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2020, 02:19:30 PM »
The guy's number is up. He hasn't advanced in years. He's useless and I do not understand why spurs went near him. (Though in saying that they will be nowhere near relegation if he stays I suspect)

Jose was found out in his last season at Madrid. That was 2013. Baffling how he still gets big jobs. And he will again after Tottenham get rid of him.

In fairness, he did get United a 2nd place finish. As time goes on, that does look like a fairly decent achievement (as well as Europa League).
Jose's league finishing achievement was the equivalent to Ole last season. Not contending for the league but secured a CL spot. Last season nobody cared who finished 3rd or 4th (I can't even remember whether it was Chelsea or ManU), the critical thing was not being 5th or 6th, which both Lampard and OGS can be satisfied with. In that year Jose came 2nd, the CL spots 2-4 were reasonably secure about a month out, with none of the 3 being anywhere near City. Nobody cared who finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th (apart from Jose).

Jose did trump Ole by winning the Europa League, which Ole made a reasonably good shot at. Arguably Jose got an easier draw, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.

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« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2020, 03:36:20 PM »
Jose comes out of every job smelling of roses. Because itís all about him, not the team.

I remember Fellaini heading a late winner Europa League once, and Jose smashing and kicking drinks bottles on the sideline. Itís all about me. Look what I done. That goal was all about me. Iím dealing with a limited squad, they wonít give me money to spend, but feck me, Iím still a genius! Heís Brolly-esque, a narcissist.

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« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2020, 09:55:12 PM »
Chelsea cruising 3-1 up against Brighton after not playing all that well. 2 of their goals coming from a misplaced backpass and a deflection. I have been disappointed with Havertz who hasn't produced much.

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Re: Premier League 20/21
« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2020, 09:23:37 AM »
The guy's number is up. He hasn't advanced in years. He's useless and I do not understand why spurs went near him. (Though in saying that they will be nowhere near relegation if he stays I suspect)

Jose was found out in his last season at Madrid. That was 2013. Baffling how he still gets big jobs. And he will again after Tottenham get rid of him.

In fairness, he did get United a 2nd place finish. As time goes on, that does look like a fairly decent achievement (as well as Europa League).
Jose's league finishing achievement was the equivalent to Ole last season. Not contending for the league but secured a CL spot. Last season nobody cared who finished 3rd or 4th (I can't even remember whether it was Chelsea or ManU), the critical thing was not being 5th or 6th, which both Lampard and OGS can be satisfied with. In that year Jose came 2nd, the CL spots 2-4 were reasonably secure about a month out, with none of the 3 being anywhere near City. Nobody cared who finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th (apart from Jose).

Jose did trump Ole by winning the Europa League, which Ole made a reasonably good shot at. Arguably Jose got an easier draw, but you can only beat what's put in front of you.

Mourinho also won the Carling Cup. I think he's responsible for 2 of the 3 trophies won by Utd since Ferguson moved on?

Utd fans have no love for Mourinho, but without him, it would have been a solitary FA Cup by Van Gaal in nearly a decade. Simply not good enough. 

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« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2020, 09:58:52 AM »
Chelsea cruising 3-1 up against Brighton after not playing all that well. 2 of their goals coming from a misplaced backpass and a deflection. I have been disappointed with Havertz who hasn't produced much.

Defo wasn't a good start for him or his selection in my dream team. Werner looked very sharp though, and will be a great addition.

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Re: Premier League 20/21
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2020, 04:39:15 PM »
Leeds are some craic to watch. What a mental game this is.
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