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Author Topic: 26 County General Election 2020  (Read 79981 times)

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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1140 on: February 13, 2020, 02:51:47 PM »
whats this talk about free houses so will everyone be giving a free house and where are the being built is it only dublin.

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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1141 on: February 13, 2020, 03:23:44 PM »
Look everyone knows it was a set up to throw this Quinn case at Mary Lou live on TV. Same tactic was used on Sean Gallagher when he ran for president. If people cannot see that then they probably just dont want to see what is right i front of them.

Austin Stack, Mairia Cahill etc

It's strange that we never hear about the victims of the Stardust fire still awaiting justice. The Butterly family who owned the venue were big donors to FF and had close links to Charlie Haughey.

We also hear little of the Mary Boyle case, a 6 year old girl believed to have been abused and killed by a person known to her. There is multiple allegations from Gardai who worked on the case that a prominent FF politician in the area interfered in the investigation and stopped the prime suspect being questioned.

We don't hear much about the priest murdered in the midlands after a wedding, again the main suspects had close links to FF with a FF TD in attendance on the night of. A family friend of the main suspect handled the case and gave a not guilty verdict back.

The lack of appetite to solve the Dublin Monaghan bombings etc etc.

No outrage there though.
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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1142 on: February 13, 2020, 03:52:42 PM »
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

See that is pure rubbish! Have a right go? what do you think they did in this election. They got every media outlet in the country to attack SF, they dragged up a 13 year old murder case and manipulated a grieving mother to further their goals. And they still failed and if SF ran in an election tomorrow they could take another 6 or 7 seats. You clearly have a hatred of SF, that's fair enough, but you are talking total garbage there - the kitchen sink was already thrown at SF and it failed and done nothing but drive people towards them.

Breege Quinn raised the story, still no apology

Breege Quinn has raised the story for 13 years, it got on front pages and into debates last week! If you think that is some sort of accident then there is nothing I can do for you.

Out of the 3 parties involved in this we have SF,FF,FG

FF/FG jumped on the bandwagon for political gain-crass and shallow

SF created a lie/slur about the family and defended it. They also clearly could have done more at the time to bring killers to justice.

Both bad, but you know which is worse

1. Cop yourself on. Breege Quinn has been campaigning for 13 years. Only last month did FG/FF/RTE etc show an interest in her.
2. SF didn't 'create' what you are calling a "lie/slur". Conor Murphy only said what was in the intelligence reports, including what was published by the Independent Monitoring Commission.

You must have misread what I wrote. I said FF/FG have jumped on story, but RTE in fact have been reporting on this for years(albeit with less intensity)
Of course SF created the slur-where have you been?
To make matters worse they never withdrew it despite many calls from Quinns!  And low and behold once an election comes along, Murphy gives a half hearted retraction-Now how is that any different in terms of political gamemanship  than what we seen from other parties.

And anyhow why jesus christ oh why would Murphy stand up and excuse a murder in the first place just because he might have been a smuggler or whatever. You really need to look at yourself lad. Shameful.

What kind of country do we want to live in?

No harm to you, but you are full of shit. Come down from your castle for a second. How did SF create the "slur" when it was based on the opinions of the security/intelligence services which was published for public consumption by the Independent Monitoring Commission. And since the IMC published the same claim, does that mean they too were "excusing" the murder? Or is that just the sort of political point scoring stoop bullsh1t you like to attach to Conor Murphy?

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« Reply #1143 on: February 13, 2020, 04:04:07 PM »
No harm to you, but you are full of shit. Come down from your castle for a second. How did SF create the "slur" when it was based on the opinions of the security/intelligence services which was published for public consumption by the Independent Monitoring Commission. And since the IMC published the same claim, does that mean they too were "excusing" the murder? Or is that just the sort of political point scoring stoop bullsh1t you like to attach to Conor Murphy?

The Shinners once mocked the IMC as 'three spooks and a lord'. Now apparently their word is gospel. ::)

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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1144 on: February 13, 2020, 04:07:28 PM »
No harm to you, but you are full of shit. Come down from your castle for a second. How did SF create the "slur" when it was based on the opinions of the security/intelligence services which was published for public consumption by the Independent Monitoring Commission. And since the IMC published the same claim, does that mean they too were "excusing" the murder? Or is that just the sort of political point scoring stoop bullsh1t you like to attach to Conor Murphy?

The Shinners once mocked the IMC as 'three spooks and a lord'. Now apparently their word is gospel. ::)

Lol. I was just about to type that. ” Snodaigh wasn't a fan

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« Reply #1145 on: February 13, 2020, 04:09:32 PM »
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

See that is pure rubbish! Have a right go? what do you think they did in this election. They got every media outlet in the country to attack SF, they dragged up a 13 year old murder case and manipulated a grieving mother to further their goals. And they still failed and if SF ran in an election tomorrow they could take another 6 or 7 seats. You clearly have a hatred of SF, that's fair enough, but you are talking total garbage there - the kitchen sink was already thrown at SF and it failed and done nothing but drive people towards them.

Breege Quinn raised the story, still no apology

Breege Quinn has raised the story for 13 years, it got on front pages and into debates last week! If you think that is some sort of accident then there is nothing I can do for you.

Out of the 3 parties involved in this we have SF,FF,FG

FF/FG jumped on the bandwagon for political gain-crass and shallow

SF created a lie/slur about the family and defended it. They also clearly could have done more at the time to bring killers to justice.

Both bad, but you know which is worse

1. Cop yourself on. Breege Quinn has been campaigning for 13 years. Only last month did FG/FF/RTE etc show an interest in her.
2. SF didn't 'create' what you are calling a "lie/slur". Conor Murphy only said what was in the intelligence reports, including what was published by the Independent Monitoring Commission.

You must have misread what I wrote. I said FF/FG have jumped on story, but RTE in fact have been reporting on this for years(albeit with less intensity)
Of course SF created the slur-where have you been?
To make matters worse they never withdrew it despite many calls from Quinns!  And low and behold once an election comes along, Murphy gives a half hearted retraction-Now how is that any different in terms of political gamemanship  than what we seen from other parties.

And anyhow why jesus christ oh why would Murphy stand up and excuse a murder in the first place just because he might have been a smuggler or whatever. You really need to look at yourself lad. Shameful.

What kind of country do we want to live in?

No harm to you, but you are full of shit. Come down from your castle for a second. How did SF create the "slur" when it was based on the opinions of the security/intelligence services which was published for public consumption by the Independent Monitoring Commission. And since the IMC published the same claim, does that mean they too were "excusing" the murder? Or is that just the sort of political point scoring stoop bullsh1t you like to attach to Conor Murphy?

You are brainwashed sur. Plus I am not an SDLP voter, I don't know where you got that. im a republican, just not a furry white one which shite hanging from my arse.


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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1146 on: February 13, 2020, 04:16:17 PM »
But they will still be ministers. All continue in their caretaker role, including Leo as caretaker Taoiseach, until a new government is formed. Technically he could be Taoiseach for many months including as Hound said the visit to the White House on St. Paddy's Day. Indeed, if there is a new election later if no gov can be formed, he could go to the country slightly more popular than he was in February and come back with the most number of seats. Stranger things have happened.

Another election could see both FF and FG pick up seats.
They would have refined their manifestos and would have a right go at SF's fairytale.

See that is pure rubbish! Have a right go? what do you think they did in this election. They got every media outlet in the country to attack SF, they dragged up a 13 year old murder case and manipulated a grieving mother to further their goals. And they still failed and if SF ran in an election tomorrow they could take another 6 or 7 seats. You clearly have a hatred of SF, that's fair enough, but you are talking total garbage there - the kitchen sink was already thrown at SF and it failed and done nothing but drive people towards them.

Breege Quinn raised the story, still no apology

Breege Quinn has raised the story for 13 years, it got on front pages and into debates last week! If you think that is some sort of accident then there is nothing I can do for you.

Out of the 3 parties involved in this we have SF,FF,FG

FF/FG jumped on the bandwagon for political gain-crass and shallow

SF created a lie/slur about the family and defended it. They also clearly could have done more at the time to bring killers to justice.

Both bad, but you know which is worse
The view in South Armagh would be a bit different.

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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1147 on: February 13, 2020, 04:26:28 PM »
No harm to you, but you are full of shit. Come down from your castle for a second. How did SF create the "slur" when it was based on the opinions of the security/intelligence services which was published for public consumption by the Independent Monitoring Commission. And since the IMC published the same claim, does that mean they too were "excusing" the murder? Or is that just the sort of political point scoring stoop bullsh1t you like to attach to Conor Murphy?

The Shinners once mocked the IMC as 'three spooks and a lord'. Now apparently their word is gospel. ::)

Lol. I was just about to type that. ” Snodaigh wasn't a fan


The discussion isn't about the accuracy of the IMC report. The point is (and I think you know this, but are just desperately trying to dodge), is that they (the IMC) made the claim in the first instance. So Conor Murphy did not create it.

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« Reply #1148 on: February 13, 2020, 04:44:47 PM »
Back on subject FF decide not to have talks with SF about Government formation.
They will talk to others though.
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« Reply #1150 on: February 13, 2020, 05:57:43 PM »
Look everyone knows it was a set up to throw this Quinn case at Mary Lou live on TV. Same tactic was used on Sean Gallagher when he ran for president. If people cannot see that then they probably just dont want to see what is right i front of them.

Austin Stack, Mairia Cahill etc

It's strange that we never hear about the victims of the Stardust fire still awaiting justice. The Butterly family who owned the venue were big donors to FF and had close links to Charlie Haughey.

We also hear little of the Mary Boyle case, a 6 year old girl believed to have been abused and killed by a person known to her. There is multiple allegations from Gardai who worked on the case that a prominent FF politician in the area interfered in the investigation and stopped the prime suspect being questioned.

We don't hear much about the priest murdered in the midlands after a wedding, again the main suspects had close links to FF with a FF TD in attendance on the night of. A family friend of the main suspect handled the case and gave a not guilty verdict back.

The lack of appetite to solve the Dublin Monaghan bombings etc etc.

No outrage there though.

Such a bad and inaccurate post

Bad and inaccurate because it shows up the double standards?

Why has the Mary Boyle case being buried by mainstream media for years when her sister has being doing all she could to get it the attention she deserves, where Gardai who worked on the case have alleged that politicians became involved to pervert the cause of justice. It's a national scandal but can't get any traction in the media.

The Stardust Fire and Dublin Monaghan bombings were two of the biggest tragedies and loss of life that the state experienced and nobody has ever been brought to justice on either case. There are some very unnerving facts in both incidents that point to state intervention in stopping the victims family getting any sort of justice for their loved ones.

But that doesn't sit in with your staged shrieking.

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Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« Reply #1151 on: February 13, 2020, 06:21:11 PM »
I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

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« Reply #1152 on: February 13, 2020, 06:45:58 PM »
Back on subject FF decide not to have talks with SF about Government formation.
They will talk to others though.

They could probably put smacht on SF in Government though.
FFG would be more risky for them. SF outside the tent pissing in

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« Reply #1153 on: February 13, 2020, 07:48:03 PM »
I wonder if the suspect in the mary boyle case was a Sinn Fein member would the media still ignore it. What di you think lads?

RT… produced a documentary on it. And I don't even see comparison between the cases other than 2 innocent people were murdered brutally

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« Reply #1154 on: February 13, 2020, 08:25:01 PM »
Nope. SF would be the big winners in that scenario, they'd have a better picture of how many candidates they can run. FF and FG would lose seats and SF would pick them up.

Sf transfers did not go to FG or FF, in general. They will take the seats off those elected on those transfers. They'd end up with 44 or 45, while still needing 81.
In another election, SF transfers would go to the extra SF candidates that they now know they could have had running.

Thats exactly what he said.

Ah, I misread him. Sorry.