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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #345 on: November 06, 2019, 07:30:42 PM »
North Down is the wealthiest constituency in NI afaik
They are not going to elect a DUP hard Brexit goon. The UDA vote wouldnít
be strong enough to swing it.
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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #346 on: November 06, 2019, 08:51:01 PM »
Sf I donít think you understand the no electorate. Economics not that big a concern.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #347 on: November 06, 2019, 09:14:38 PM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-50316764

The DUP's David Simpson is standing down as MP for Upper Bann after a reported affair with a party colleague. He first won the seat in 2005 and has been a member of the party for decades. In a statement, he said: "In recent times it has been well publicised that I made a mistake that brought hurt to my wife and family as well as bringing heartache to another family." Mr Simpson said he was sorry for his "mistakes" and that his family had given him a "precious second chance".

"These were my mistakes and for them I am truly sorry," he said. "I have learned from my failings and my wife and children have given me a precious second chance and together we intend to look to the future together." Before becoming an MP, Mr Simpson was a member of the Stormont assembly and had also been a councillor for the party.
Image caption Mr Simpson was a member of the Stormont assembly before becoming an MP. He said the time was right to "pass the baton on".

DUP leader Arlene Foster thanked Mr Simpson for his years of consistent public service to voters and the party. "His service has been characterised by dedication to the people who elected him and his business skills and experience were used to the benefit of Upper Bann," she said. "I wish him well as he takes a new direction in life and I know that he will continue to use his many talents to the benefit of the party and the wider Northern Ireland cause."

It was a dramatic result in 2005, when he first snatched the Upper Bann seat from the then-Ulster Unionist leader David Trimble. It proved to be a landmark victory that showed how the DUP had eclipsed the UUP. Before becoming a politician, Mr Simpson had worked in his own meat business but came to prominence as the mayor of Craigavon and later an MLA. Away from the political world, he was a keen preacher and gospel singer.

In Parliament, he was not regarded as one of the party's high-flyers but was a regular contributor in the Commons and a member of the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee. He was opposed to same-sex marriage, but in 2013 during a debate in Parliament on legalising it, he said: "In the Garden of Eden it was Adam and Steve" before correcting himself to "Adam and Eve". In 2017, he claimed in election literature that he had visited soldiers in Afghanistan in 2010, but it later emerged this had not happened because he could not fit into a flak jacket.

It is not clear who the party will select to replace him to stand as a candidate for Upper Bann in the 12 December general election.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #348 on: November 06, 2019, 09:14:52 PM »
Sf I donít think you understand the no electorate. Economics not that big a concern.

Exactly. What might seem irrational to normal voters does not apply to DUP Brexit voters who want to play the Uber Brit. The only way I can see the DUP challenged in this constituency is if the UUP put in a strong high profile pro remain candidate and even then it would be difficult to see how they could out poll Sylvia Hermon or get close to her level of popular support.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #349 on: November 06, 2019, 09:47:17 PM »
Sf I donít think you understand the no electorate. Economics not that big a concern.

Exactly. What might seem irrational to normal voters does not apply to DUP Brexit voters who want to play the Uber Brit. The only way I can see the DUP challenged in this constituency is if the UUP put in a strong high profile pro remain candidate and even then it would be difficult to see how they could out poll Sylvia Hermon or get close to her level of popular support.

Which the UUP are not going to do. They could tack to the left (or less orange side) of the DUP and try to reclaim the center, but they always seem to try to out-DUP the DUP instead.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #350 on: November 06, 2019, 10:45:03 PM »
Tom Watson steps down
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #351 on: November 06, 2019, 11:04:16 PM »
Maitlis annihilating Brokenshire on Newsnight... great to see!!!

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #352 on: November 07, 2019, 12:02:40 AM »
On radio today, they mentioned Arlene standing in Upper Bann - was a solicitor there in bygone days!!

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #353 on: November 07, 2019, 12:58:24 AM »
On radio today, they mentioned Arlene standing in Upper Bann - was a solicitor there in bygone days!!

If her workwomenship was like that of leading the DUP there will be people there that don't really own their houses or aren't really divorced.
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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #354 on: November 07, 2019, 05:39:44 AM »
Firstly, best wishes to Sylvia Hermon really sad to see her stepping down. North Down now looks a complete banker for DUP. I heard rumours few weeks ago that Diane Dodds was going to run for that seat, however her name has popped up to run for Upper Bann.

Brexit Referendum 2016
Total electorate: 65,660
Turnout: 44,211 (67.3%)
Votes to REMAIN: 23,131 (52.4%)
Votes to LEAVE: 21,046 (47.6%).

NI Assembly Election 2017
DUP 14,152 (37.5%) 2 seats
UUP 8,115 (21.5%) 1 seat
Alliance 7,014 (18.6%) 1 seat
Green 5,178 (13.7%) 1 seat
Ind 1,369 (3.6%)
SDLP 679 (1.8%)
Con 641 (1.7%)
SF 591 (1.6%)

Westminster Election 2017
Sylvia Hermon (Ind) 16,148 (41.2%)
Alex Easton (DUP) 14,940 (38.1%)
Andrew Muir (Alliance) 3.639 (9.3%)
Steven Agnew (Green) 2,549 (6.5%)
Frank Shivers (Con) 941 (2.4%)
Therese McCartney (SF) 531 (1.4%)
Caoimhe McNeill (SDLP) 400 (1.0%)
Gavan Reynolds (Ind) 37 (0.1%)

After closing analysing the figures for this there is still hope for DUP to be defeated here. Could the Pro-Remain side run a independent candidate?? Does the UUP believe they can gain back this consistency? Finally does Alliance have a chance?? Views folks

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #355 on: November 07, 2019, 06:27:28 AM »
Sf I donít think you understand the no electorate. Economics not that big a concern.
At some point the UUP and Alliance will start taking Westminster seats off the DUP. The DUP
would need to be weakened for this to happen. Weíll see what the voters think of the DUPís Brexit efforts shortly.
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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #356 on: November 07, 2019, 07:55:35 AM »
Maitlis annihilating Brokenshire on Newsnight... great to see!!!

She really did make him squirm. He had no answers at all.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #357 on: November 07, 2019, 08:20:28 AM »
Sf I donít think you understand the no electorate. Economics not that big a concern.
At some point the UUP and Alliance will start taking Westminster seats off the DUP. The DUP
would need to be weakened for this to happen. Weíll see what the voters think of the DUPís Brexit efforts shortly.

Yes we will.the ďunionĒ is the big spelling point of this election. Project fear and donít vote themmums already started. Just look at the Hanna comments.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #358 on: November 07, 2019, 08:40:14 AM »
Rumours this morning of Ian Paisley Jr standing as an ind unionist in North Antrim. Speculation at present but no smoke without fire, definitely not a united camp at present

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #359 on: November 07, 2019, 08:43:10 AM »
Sf I donít think you understand the no electorate. Economics not that big a concern.
At some point the UUP and Alliance will start taking Westminster seats off the DUP. The DUP
would need to be weakened for this to happen. Weíll see what the voters think of the DUPís Brexit efforts shortly.

The uup will do nothing.
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