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LeoMc

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #315 on: November 06, 2019, 02:43:24 PM »

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

There's two of them at it.

Nightmare interviews yesterday and today for Keir Starmer and Laura Pidcock.
His interview or the Tory edit of it?

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #316 on: November 06, 2019, 02:49:04 PM »
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!


You haven't been paying enough attention or you're reading the wrong "newspapers" if you think that's the case.


The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

Have your say https://labour.org.uk/manifesto-2019/
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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #317 on: November 06, 2019, 02:52:58 PM »
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!


You haven't been paying enough attention or you're reading the wrong "newspapers" if you think that's the case.

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!


There have been several Labour rallies and the Tories have had none. I accept Labout aren't near in full swing and probably mistook the tone of your initial post.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #318 on: November 06, 2019, 02:54:05 PM »
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

Labour have flown out of the traps again. Corbyn is at his most comfortable campaigning around the country meeting with ordinary people on bread and butter issues and we are seeing that again. The Tories have had a disastrous start because they live sheltered lives and simply aren’t in touch with what is happening outside their own bubble.


Nail on the head here.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #319 on: November 06, 2019, 02:54:52 PM »
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

If said it on here in the past. Corbyn wiped the floor with the conservatives in 17. I'm beginning to think the conservatives have learnt nothing. Is "get brexit done" the new "strong and stable"?


Don't forget "Britain deserves better"!!!!!!  ;D

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #320 on: November 06, 2019, 02:58:46 PM »
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

If said it on here in the past. Corbyn wiped the floor with the conservatives in 17. I'm beginning to think the conservatives have learnt nothing. Is "get brexit done" the new "strong and stable"?


Don't forget "Britain deserves better"!!!!!!  ;D

Surprised I haven't seen "Make Britain Great Again",
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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #321 on: November 06, 2019, 03:01:45 PM »

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

There's two of them at it.

Nightmare interviews yesterday and today for Keir Starmer and Laura Pidcock.
His interview or the Tory edit of it?

Fake news from the Tory party.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #322 on: November 06, 2019, 03:18:11 PM »
Diane Dodds lives in the constituency and will be out of a job soon, so another possibility.

It would have been interesting if Shagger had have run to see if Doug Beattie would have made any inroads into his vote. O’Dowd would have been well placed if the unionist vote was evenly split, DoŁores KeŁŁy standing will lessen the chances of this happening.
Doddsy might be in Strasbourg for a good while yet
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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #323 on: November 06, 2019, 04:03:59 PM »
What's the Alliances latest tweet about?

Someone throwing some personal mud about!

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #324 on: November 06, 2019, 04:07:00 PM »
Jeffrey Donaldson and Colum Eastwood had a fairly heated exchange earlier on Talkback over a letter that Jeffrey wrote into today's Newsletter asking whether Sean Kelly would be campaigning for Claire Hanna in South Belfast. Eastwood spoke very well and got Donaldson completely flustered and I think that by the end of the interview that he may have realised that the letter may have backfired on him. Looked like a complete stunt from Jeffrey to try and make it about the IRA again and deflect from any Brexit related issues.

The fact is that the DUP have embraced loyalist paramilitaries more than ever before and have done nothing to try and distance themselves from platform sharing and having meetings with the UDA and UVF. I think its borne out of fear and paranoia in realising that the union is under threat but in doing so they just become even more inward looking and continue to isolate themselves. They just continue to dig themselves ever deeper into their bunkers and I think they might soon have to change their party name to 'ourselves alone'.   

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #325 on: November 06, 2019, 04:13:05 PM »
The UDA/UVF probably have a reasonable say in who "working class" loyalists vote for in certain areas at least. If they don't appease them then they will lose voters.

That being said the last time they paired up was round the time of their "graduated response" around parades which still hasn't happened.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #326 on: November 06, 2019, 04:34:41 PM »
Jeffrey Donaldson and Colum Eastwood had a fairly heated exchange earlier on Talkback over a letter that Jeffrey wrote into today's Newsletter asking whether Sean Kelly would be campaigning for Claire Hanna in South Belfast. Eastwood spoke very well and got Donaldson completely flustered and I think that by the end of the interview that he may have realised that the letter may have backfired on him. Looked like a complete stunt from Jeffrey to try and make it about the IRA again and deflect from any Brexit related issues.

The fact is that the DUP have embraced loyalist paramilitaries more than ever before and have done nothing to try and distance themselves from platform sharing and having meetings with the UDA and UVF. I think its borne out of fear and paranoia in realising that the union is under threat but in doing so they just become even more inward looking and continue to isolate themselves. They just continue to dig themselves ever deeper into their bunkers and I think they might soon have to change their party name to 'ourselves alone'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009ylz

About 11 minutes in.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #327 on: November 06, 2019, 05:08:19 PM »
The UDA/UVF probably have a reasonable say in who "working class" loyalists vote for in certain areas at least. If they don't appease them then they will lose voters.

That being said the last time they paired up was round the time of their "graduated response" around parades which still hasn't happened.

They will team up with the UDA/UVF if it is expedient for them to do so. That's fine but they can't then claim some high principled moral stance over paramilitarism links which is what they are doing in the case of Sean Kelly and SDLP. It is fairly clear already that Finucane will be the subject of a continual smear campaign in North Belfast which is just indicative of how much pressure that Dodds is under to hold that seat. I think Finucane is too clever to get involved in the mud slinging of personal attacks and needs to keep it about Brexit and Dodds record over the last 2-3 years as an arch Brexiteer/ERG apologist.   

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #328 on: November 06, 2019, 05:17:58 PM »
They can because that is what they do though. The party of RHI, red sky, petitions of concern, links with loyalist paramilitaries. They are the epitome of irony.

Yes I hope Finucane goes nowhere near it.

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Re: UK General Election December 2019
« Reply #329 on: November 06, 2019, 06:02:14 PM »
Jeffrey Donaldson and Colum Eastwood had a fairly heated exchange earlier on Talkback over a letter that Jeffrey wrote into today's Newsletter asking whether Sean Kelly would be campaigning for Claire Hanna in South Belfast. Eastwood spoke very well and got Donaldson completely flustered and I think that by the end of the interview that he may have realised that the letter may have backfired on him. Looked like a complete stunt from Jeffrey to try and make it about the IRA again and deflect from any Brexit related issues.

The fact is that the DUP have embraced loyalist paramilitaries more than ever before and have done nothing to try and distance themselves from platform sharing and having meetings with the UDA and UVF. I think its borne out of fear and paranoia in realising that the union is under threat but in doing so they just become even more inward looking and continue to isolate themselves. They just continue to dig themselves ever deeper into their bunkers and I think they might soon have to change their party name to 'ourselves alone'.

Sean Kelly is campaigning for Clare Hanna??
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"