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Re: Ulster Club SFC 2019
« Reply #450 on: November 04, 2019, 10:49:36 PM »
That aside, there is no answer to the the draws, 2 periods of extra time, then goes to a replay and then another 2 periods of extra time before penalties?

The idea earlier is not a bad one - 2 scores in a row to win.

Would be shite for a team playing into a gale - but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Whatever rule is used someone will complain about it! The current set up is unfair as the Donegal champions got and extra game to win it in normal time, while others had to play out in one day
The club schedule in september and october is intense.
Naomh Conaills had to play 3 games to win their county championship, that schedule coming into the the Ulster club sfc was no advantage.
At least in the Ulster Club SFC  with the penalty shoot out, each winning team will have the same vantage (two weeks) going into the semi final.

The penalty shoot was used in the early rounds of the Monaghan sfc but each losing team had a back door entry into the next round.

Cargin had a draw and replay that went to extra time, they had to play following week against Derrygonnelly ( who beat the best club team in Ireland  ;D ) when they clearly had players injured or not able to be at their best to play in the first round.

Had they received another week  to rest up they’d have been in a better position. It’s down to the county to allow games to be finished, with a view for the allowances of drawn games
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Re: Ulster Club SFC 2019
« Reply #451 on: November 05, 2019, 01:10:33 AM »
2 weeks between Trill/D’Gonnelly QF and the semi. They could have played the replay this weekend, and still a week for the winners to prepare for semi.

If Trill/DG drew again, then have another replay, and push back the semi. What’s the problem?

Cross Naomh Conaill played a final in 2010 about a week before Xmas because it kept getting cancelled due to weather. I don’t see why the odd replay shouldn’t be accommodated too, for the sake of an extra week or two. Sure the AI semi finals aren’t until February anyway!

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« Reply #452 on: November 05, 2019, 01:17:20 AM »
2 weeks between Trill/D’Gonnelly QF and the semi. They could have played the replay this weekend, and still a week for the winners to prepare for semi.

If Trill/DG drew again, then have another replay, and push back the semi. What’s the problem?

Cross Naomh Conaill played a final in 2010 about a week before Xmas because it kept getting cancelled due to weather. I don’t see why the odd replay shouldn’t be accommodated too, for the sake of an extra week or two. Sure the AI semi finals aren’t until February anyway!

Semi finals set for 4/5 January 2020, with finals on 19 January.

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« Reply #453 on: November 05, 2019, 10:03:21 AM »
2 weeks between Trill/D’Gonnelly QF and the semi. They could have played the replay this weekend, and still a week for the winners to prepare for semi.

If Trill/DG drew again, then have another replay, and push back the semi. What’s the problem?

Cross Naomh Conaill played a final in 2010 about a week before Xmas because it kept getting cancelled due to weather. I don’t see why the odd replay shouldn’t be accommodated too, for the sake of an extra week or two. Sure the AI semi finals aren’t until February anyway!

Semi finals set for 4/5 January 2020, with finals on 19 January.

When was that announced?

Still 2/3 weeks to play with before Xmas though. Time enough for replays or postponements.

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« Reply #454 on: November 05, 2019, 10:34:43 AM »
That aside, there is no answer to the the draws, 2 periods of extra time, then goes to a replay and then another 2 periods of extra time before penalties?

The idea earlier is not a bad one - 2 scores in a row to win.

Would be shite for a team playing into a gale - but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Whatever rule is used someone will complain about it! The current set up is unfair as the Donegal champions got and extra game to win it in normal time, while others had to play out in one day
The club schedule in september and october is intense.
Naomh Conaills had to play 3 games to win their county championship, that schedule coming into the the Ulster club sfc was no advantage.
At least in the Ulster Club SFC  with the penalty shoot out, each winning team will have the same vantage (two weeks) going into the semi final.

The penalty shoot was used in the early rounds of the Monaghan sfc but each losing team had a back door entry into the next round.

Cargin had a draw and replay that went to extra time, they had to play following week against Derrygonnelly ( who beat the best club team in Ireland  ;D ) when they clearly had players injured or not able to be at their best to play in the first round.

Had they received another week  to rest up they’d have been in a better position. It’s down to the county to allow games to be finished, with a view for the allowances of drawn games
Counties can work out a decent system for themselves, I think Monaghan's is a decent experiment, has worked well this year (at least for Clontibret) and is here to stay. When it comes to the Ulster Club SFC I think a drawn game should be settled on the day and all winning teams have an equal rest period before the semi final / final. The county championship is everything, this provincial competition is bonus territory but adds a taxing nuisance factor if replays are part of the format.

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« Reply #455 on: November 05, 2019, 10:42:29 AM »
Agreed Main St.
As for Benny the oul memory is obviously gone .
I posted about those dates a few weeks ago.
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« Reply #456 on: November 05, 2019, 11:20:17 AM »
Whoever decided penalty kicks to decide a GAA match should be beaten around the nads with nettles and then brambles until they drop off.  Probably a Dub west-Brit pale-dweller.

Why? There are penalties in gaa sports?

Cos it’s a soccer solution to end a GAA contest, and a completely shit soccer solution at that.

Hate seeing stuff like this.
Extra time in itself is a 'soccer solution' then if your going to use that, what a load of garbage. Get off your high horse!

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« Reply #457 on: November 05, 2019, 11:22:02 AM »
That aside, there is no answer to the the draws, 2 periods of extra time, then goes to a replay and then another 2 periods of extra time before penalties?

The idea earlier is not a bad one - 2 scores in a row to win.

Would be shite for a team playing into a gale - but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Whatever rule is used someone will complain about it! The current set up is unfair as the Donegal champions got and extra game to win it in normal time, while others had to play out in one day
The club schedule in september and october is intense.
Naomh Conaills had to play 3 games to win their county championship, that schedule coming into the the Ulster club sfc was no advantage.
At least in the Ulster Club SFC  with the penalty shoot out, each winning team will have the same vantage (two weeks) going into the semi final.

The penalty shoot was used in the early rounds of the Monaghan sfc but each losing team had a back door entry into the next round.

Cargin had a draw and replay that went to extra time, they had to play following week against Derrygonnelly ( who beat the best club team in Ireland  ;D ) when they clearly had players injured or not able to be at their best to play in the first round.

Had they received another week  to rest up they’d have been in a better position. It’s down to the county to allow games to be finished, with a view for the allowances of drawn games

Who told you that load of rubbish

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« Reply #458 on: November 05, 2019, 11:48:03 AM »
That aside, there is no answer to the the draws, 2 periods of extra time, then goes to a replay and then another 2 periods of extra time before penalties?

The idea earlier is not a bad one - 2 scores in a row to win.

Would be shite for a team playing into a gale - but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Whatever rule is used someone will complain about it! The current set up is unfair as the Donegal champions got and extra game to win it in normal time, while others had to play out in one day
The club schedule in september and october is intense.
Naomh Conaills had to play 3 games to win their county championship, that schedule coming into the the Ulster club sfc was no advantage.
At least in the Ulster Club SFC  with the penalty shoot out, each winning team will have the same vantage (two weeks) going into the semi final.

The penalty shoot was used in the early rounds of the Monaghan sfc but each losing team had a back door entry into the next round.

Cargin had a draw and replay that went to extra time, they had to play following week against Derrygonnelly ( who beat the best club team in Ireland  ;D ) when they clearly had players injured or not able to be at their best to play in the first round.

Had they received another week  to rest up they’d have been in a better position. It’s down to the county to allow games to be finished, with a view for the allowances of drawn games

No disrespect, but counties such as Antrim and Derry and even Donegal this year, shouldn't have them problems of championships running too long.. The county teams were finished in the middle of the summer, what was stopping them starting the championship then? Or are they purposely starting them to allow the winners to be in competitive mode come the Ulster championship? Surely 3 weeks between a county final and a first rounder in Ulster wouldn't put players in Limbo mode

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Re: Ulster Club SFC 2019
« Reply #459 on: November 05, 2019, 02:19:19 PM »
Tyrone clubs have a dire record in Ulster Club championship, it would make you question the strength of their club football. I think this is one of the poorest Ulster club championships quality wise and Kilcoo will never have a better opportunity to win it than they have this year.   

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« Reply #460 on: November 05, 2019, 02:55:40 PM »
Yellowcard not again…..

Not so much the poorest, prob the most open, that sounds a bit right?
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« Reply #461 on: November 05, 2019, 02:58:05 PM »
That aside, there is no answer to the the draws, 2 periods of extra time, then goes to a replay and then another 2 periods of extra time before penalties?

The idea earlier is not a bad one - 2 scores in a row to win.

Would be shite for a team playing into a gale - but thats the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Whatever rule is used someone will complain about it! The current set up is unfair as the Donegal champions got and extra game to win it in normal time, while others had to play out in one day
The club schedule in september and october is intense.
Naomh Conaills had to play 3 games to win their county championship, that schedule coming into the the Ulster club sfc was no advantage.
At least in the Ulster Club SFC  with the penalty shoot out, each winning team will have the same vantage (two weeks) going into the semi final.

The penalty shoot was used in the early rounds of the Monaghan sfc but each losing team had a back door entry into the next round.

Cargin had a draw and replay that went to extra time, they had to play following week against Derrygonnelly ( who beat the best club team in Ireland  ;D ) when they clearly had players injured or not able to be at their best to play in the first round.

Had they received another week  to rest up they’d have been in a better position. It’s down to the county to allow games to be finished, with a view for the allowances of drawn games

Who told you that load of rubbish

He's having a hard time figuring out the difference between best club team in Ulster and best county championship in Ulster.

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« Reply #462 on: November 05, 2019, 03:23:21 PM »
Watched the highlights of all the games on BBC IPlayer - first of all great coverage.
Clontibret just about to deserved to win but got lucky with a couple of frees. Very impressed with their midfield and ODowd at 11.
Kilcoo had a purple patch after half time that gave them a cushion. In the highlights all the big calls seemed to go their way and that was unlucky on the underdogs who were already up against it. Hurson and McQuillan are 2 of the top refs in Ireland but both had bad days.
The Jones, all 3 of them, were fantastic for Derrygonnelly and they had a never say die attitude to come back in normal time and extra time. Trillick really should have put the game away a couple of times but inexperience cost them. Maybe that is the Tyrone clubs problem in this competition, none of them get back to it year after year like the other counties.
Fair play to the Glenties boys, what a week they put in.......they would be my favourites to win it now though all four will fancy their chances.

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Re: Ulster Club SFC 2019
« Reply #463 on: November 05, 2019, 03:27:56 PM »
Yellowcard not again…..

Not so much the poorest, prob the most open, that sounds a bit right?

Well, I just don’t see any one great side left in the competition in terms of it producing the Sll Ireland champions. I predict a Kilcoo v Naomh Conaill final but both of those sides would be resilient dogged sides rather than being great footballing teams.

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« Reply #464 on: November 05, 2019, 03:39:00 PM »
Corofin and Dr Crokes miles ahead of ulster at present. Probably dublin champions too.