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Portbush

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Football Ref
« on: September 30, 2019, 10:33:59 AM »
We have 16 senior teams in laois and only 6 Ref that passed the fitness test to take control of all these games.2 of these Refs are port men. At the weekend one of these Refs was way out of his depth some of his decisions where so bad that you wonder did he have money on the game(which I doubt he had) we also have a celebrity Ref which he thinks the game is all about him. I know itís a thankless job.but for players to spend 3 nights a week training giving there time for club and county.To play the game they love itís hard to take for them.for me the Ref shouldnít be notice but when you walk out of O Moore Park the talk is all about the Ref.Is this only my opinion or what do ye guys think

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2019, 10:40:28 AM »
We have 16 senior teams in laois and only 6 Ref that passed the fitness test to take control of all these games.2 of these Refs are port men. At the weekend one of these Refs was way out of his depth some of his decisions where so bad that you wonder did he have money on the game(which I doubt he had) we also have a celebrity Ref which he thinks the game is all about him. I know itís a thankless job.but for players to spend 3 nights a week training giving there time for club and county.To play the game they love itís hard to take for them.for me the Ref shouldnít be notice but when you walk out of O Moore Park the talk is all about the Ref.Is this only my opinion or what do ye guys think
I think the clubs should be much more active in encouraging former players to take up refereeing. Some clubs completely ignore it, and I would begin to impose sanctions on Clubs who don't provide referees to the County Board. I would take home games from them. We are at breaking point in Laois when it comes to referees, knifeing the ones we have will do f**k all good.

I'd also reduce the amount of senior clubs to 12 at the very least.

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2019, 10:52:06 AM »
refereeing is such a tough job and the level of abuse they get is what puts people off becoming refs. there is no quick solution for the crisis of declining refs and we do not want to put pressure on clubs to provide refs just for the sake of doing so.  maybe regional refereeing could be the way forward and with a bit more financial expense for travelling. clubs then could not moan also about a ref having connections to another club

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2019, 10:52:54 AM »
we do not want to put pressure on clubs to provide refs just for the sake of doing so.
Why not?

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2019, 11:03:13 AM »
we do not want to put pressure on clubs to provide refs just for the sake of doing so.
Why not?
how good will they be? we cant force people to be refs? they need to want to do it themselves and have pride and an interest in it.

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2019, 11:08:22 AM »
We have 16 senior teams in laois and only 6 Ref that passed the fitness test to take control of all these games.2 of these Refs are port men. At the weekend one of these Refs was way out of his depth some of his decisions where so bad that you wonder did he have money on the game(which I doubt he had) we also have a celebrity Ref which he thinks the game is all about him. I know itís a thankless job.but for players to spend 3 nights a week training giving there time for club and county.To play the game they love itís hard to take for them.for me the Ref shouldnít be notice but when you walk out of O Moore Park the talk is all about the Ref.Is this only my opinion or what do ye guys think

Thankfully we're talking about the minority of matches, and in fairness to Tarpey, conditions were bad, there was a lot at stake and it was tetchy. Some decisions were strange alright, particularly his interpretation of the tackle. This seemed to infuriate Rigney, and I believe rightly so.

As for the overall need for referees, who would want to do it? It's a couple of hours at least gone from your evening or day, and for what? 40 euro? I stand corrected on that. Who can commit to that sort of time for that sort of pittance if you have work commitments and family to worry about? Maybe if clubs supplemented the fee with an extra payment, it moght be worth some people's time and at least be more attractive as a proposition. I saw some players parking away from the ground yesterday while the usual hangers on got the VIP treatment. There's extra money to be had there for referees if everyone was treated the same. If the players can't park in the new car park, for whatever reason, then nobody should be let into it. 

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2019, 11:11:43 AM »
we do not want to put pressure on clubs to provide refs just for the sake of doing so.
Why not?
how good will they be? we cant force people to be refs? they need to want to do it themselves and have pride and an interest in it.
People need a push. They may not know they want to do it. The way weíre doing it isnít working.

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2019, 11:29:06 AM »
It was a totally inept performance by the referee (and linesmen) yesterday and for sure the players deserve better. 

Apart from an odd night to get a lesson on the latest rule change, is there any proper training provided for referees?

I would also agree that there should be enough money in the GAA to pay referees enough to encourage more participation.

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2019, 11:32:08 AM »
I think LCB have lost 6 referees who done senior from last year. Hard to make that back up

Don Draper

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2019, 11:53:02 AM »
I think LCB have lost 6 referees who done senior from last year. Hard to make that back up

Itíll be very hard if the clubs donít make an effort

Itíll also be very hard if the clubs donít clamp down themselves on abuse of referees.

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2019, 12:00:49 PM »
Agreed Don, we all need to cool it with the abuse.  County Board should be penal in their fines to clubs would not be long sorting all our behavior.


Ä45 is their payment


To be honest I have watched some odd decisions however I find the odd decisions are both ways favoring neither team.  Also most of the people roaring abuse have no idea of the rules. 
« Last Edit: September 30, 2019, 12:04:33 PM by BallyroanAbu »

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2019, 12:19:44 PM »
Money isnít good enough which I do agree with.the weather has nothing to do with the job that Ref done I seen him a couple of weeks back and he was no better.there is enough money being paid by the supporters to watch these games to pay a good Ref.its a thankless job I know that. Itís a job I couldnít do because I know I wouldnít be able for it. Some of these guys are notable for it but still do it.i donít know what laois gaa do to train refs how many times a year they are assessed 

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2019, 12:27:18 PM »
So what we have here is lots of criticisms and no solutions. Its like being at a County Board meeting.

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2019, 12:30:10 PM »
What are the solutions? Every game we now have referees been abused

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Re: Football Ref
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2019, 12:35:36 PM »
What are the solutions? Every game we now have referees been abused
Put the focus on the clubs. Fine teams without mercy for abuse of referees. Punish clubs for not providing referees.