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Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2019, 11:09:45 AM »
Who else is part of this Mayo foundation and have they any background in the Gaa?

Not sure, but I’d guess a few have some knowledge

In 2014 the fundraising efforts in New York wouldn’t have been out of place in an episode of Father Ted. This year the events were run professionally  and serious money was raised

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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2019, 11:14:20 AM »
Sadly an awful lot of Co Boards are vulnerable to this kind of individual as they try to fund and compete at Inter County level.
Now if the GAA was to decide that " football needs a strong Mayo" etc etc
Connacht GAA certainly thinks so.

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2019, 11:20:03 AM »
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Sadly not every county has access to this type of foreign cash. Dublin's level of funding is a real problem. So is Mayo's, Kerry's and a few others. There are 32 counties.

Im not sure I buy this. If Mayo can find a group of wealthy backers I really dont see why others cant.

Again, I get the feeling its easier to whinge thaen do

Well of course it is. And for sure some counties will not be proactive enough or have the required competencies to chase this type of cash.

But there is a finite number of people who will want to bankroll amateur GAA teams. Counties with larger populations, and larger emigrate populations are in a stronger position to make use of this. The money here is eye watering. There is no way every county can raise to the same level.


Due to the ridiculously high levels of emigration and migration from Mayo we have a diaspora unrivaled by most counties and hence could pull this off. There are also Mayo fans in every county in Ireland whose parents or grandparents were from Mayo. I spent 4 days in the high stool in New York and met people from all corners of Ireland and England, not to mention the States. One person told me that 100 flew in from San Francisco alone

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2019, 11:31:13 AM »
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Dublin did an All Ireland breakfast preview last year were they charged "x" amount per table, but everyone who attended was guaranteed a ticket.

In my mind this is different. They wanted to raffle/auction the tickets to raise funds, so Mayo county board rips them off selling them the tickets and then expects the proceeds from the raffle/auction as well!!!  To me that's taking the mick, but maybe things are different down the country.

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2019, 11:36:58 AM »
I have much more of a problem with these shadowy unelected groups/individuals providing off the books funding than any official GAA funding.

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2019, 11:47:44 AM »
These are serious sums, no matter what the county is.
Luckily money hasn't anything to do with success and it's the quality of the volunteers that matters.

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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2019, 01:12:18 PM »
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2019, 01:13:24 PM »
Yes indeed.
Those Longford and Leitrim volunteers need to up their game ::)
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2019, 02:33:47 PM »
Yes indeed.
Those Longford and Leitrim volunteers need to up their game ::)
In this instance, yes. There are wealthy individuals in both counties and wealthy emigrants. Find them, massage them, tap them.

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2019, 02:36:36 PM »
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

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« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2019, 03:13:19 PM »
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

You don't know what you're talking about. Almost all of what you've said is incorrect - read the reports more carefully.
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« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2019, 03:27:25 PM »
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.

Fair enough points made.

Was there not a handout to fix McHale park though?

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« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2019, 03:43:56 PM »
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.

Fair enough points made.

Was there not a handout to fix McHale park though?
No.
The loan repayment schedule was restructured. The period of payments was extended but the amount payable remains the same.
This is common enough practice in the commercial world and banks and other lending institutions often do the same ,
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« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2019, 03:48:39 PM »
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

You don't know what you're talking about. Almost all of what you've said is incorrect - read the reports more carefully.

I did.

The €250k in question is nothing to do with the NY fundraiser.

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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2019, 04:05:58 PM »
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.

Fair enough points made.

Was there not a handout to fix McHale park though?

No, Croke Park took over the loan from Ulster Bank - there was no handout. The repayments are about €33k a month, something Dublin have never had to deal with.
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