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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #885 on: September 15, 2019, 10:22:35 PM »
Testament to Dublin that they were able to bring on Connolly and still win. Bar one sweet pass, he was piss poor and could have cost them the game.  Must be hard to watch for Dublin players on the sidelines that have been putting in the hard yards all year.

Yes, he turned over ball at least 3 times coming into the home front. When possession was the name of the game.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #886 on: September 15, 2019, 10:50:47 PM »
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Time will tell, obviously as a Dub fan there is no need to point out the hammerings Dublin have handed out to teams after half time in games....


Results this year back this up:

HT - Kildare 4 down, lost by 14
HT - Meath  4 down, lost by 16
HT - Cork 6 down, lost by 13
HT - Roscommon, forget this one
HT-  Mayo 2 up, lost by 10.

This trend would have been maintained had there been 15 v 15 for the whole game, Kerry may only have lost by 7 though as they are the second best squad in Ireland now.


AIF, HT - Draw

Dublin win by 6.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #887 on: September 15, 2019, 10:58:29 PM »



I remarked to someone yesterday that if Aiden O Se did what Moran did yesterday that caused the goal we’d never hear the end of it
Everything comes back to what would or would not be said about the rhubarbs, sure the whole football worlds revolves around them. ;D

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #888 on: September 15, 2019, 11:24:20 PM »



I remarked to someone yesterday that if Aiden O Se did what Moran did yesterday that caused the goal we’d never hear the end of it
Everything comes back to what would or would not be said about the rhubarbs, sure the whole football worlds revolves around them. ;D

We had the guts of a decade people talking about us. It's hard to let go!

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #889 on: September 16, 2019, 09:27:18 AM »
Kerry badly caught out by a set play from Dublin. . . they played it perfectly and got the little bit of luck for Murchan to pick up the ball the way he did. O'Brien was taken out of it by Fenton as he was trying to chase as well. It was very well executed but should have been blown for overcarrying from Murchan.

Yes he was being fouled but as far as I'm aware if he overcarries they have to come back for the original foul and Lane didn't have his hand up anyway.

It was end to end stuff between 2 very good teams thank god the game has evolved you could watch the Dubs and Kerry play all day long.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #890 on: September 16, 2019, 09:54:26 AM »
Kerry badly caught out by a set play from Dublin. . . they played it perfectly and got the little bit of luck for Murchan to pick up the ball the way he did. O'Brien was taken out of it by Fenton as he was trying to chase as well. It was very well executed but should have been blown for overcarrying from Murchan.

Yes he was being fouled but as far as I'm aware if he overcarries they have to come back for the original foul and Lane didn't have his hand up anyway.

It was end to end stuff between 2 very good teams thank god the game has evolved you could watch the Dubs and Kerry play all day long.

I would say you could watch the first half all day long but not the second. First half was two good teams going hell for leather.

Once the goal went in there was an air of inevitability about it all and it was back to the blanket defence when Kerry pulled 15 behind the ball even when they were behind on the scoreboard.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #892 on: September 16, 2019, 10:12:53 AM »
Kerry badly caught out by a set play from Dublin. . . they played it perfectly and got the little bit of luck for Murchan to pick up the ball the way he did. O'Brien was taken out of it by Fenton as he was trying to chase as well. It was very well executed but should have been blown for overcarrying from Murchan.

Yes he was being fouled but as far as I'm aware if he overcarries they have to come back for the original foul and Lane didn't have his hand up anyway.

It was end to end stuff between 2 very good teams thank god the game has evolved you could watch the Dubs and Kerry play all day long.
In  a normal situation a very good team starts to get tired after 4 or 5 years . The Dubs have a conveyor belt of talent to override this.
I don't know what the GAA expects to happen
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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #893 on: September 16, 2019, 10:31:04 AM »
Kerry badly caught out by a set play from Dublin. . . they played it perfectly and got the little bit of luck for Murchan to pick up the ball the way he did. O'Brien was taken out of it by Fenton as he was trying to chase as well. It was very well executed but should have been blown for overcarrying from Murchan.

Yes he was being fouled but as far as I'm aware if he overcarries they have to come back for the original foul and Lane didn't have his hand up anyway.

It was end to end stuff between 2 very good teams thank god the game has evolved you could watch the Dubs and Kerry play all day long.
In  a normal situation a very good team starts to get tired after 4 or 5 years . The Dubs have a conveyor belt of talent to override this.
I don't know what the GAA expects to happen
Considering Kildare and Meath match us or beat us at minor level, do they also have the conveyor belt? And what about all the other counties winning minor and U20 titles at provincial and national? Kerry have the best conveyor belt for sure, Cork's is decent too.

Dublin's conveyor belt at midfield and half forward doesn't seem so hot at the moment and we had to bring Connolly back. We've a lot of talent in the FF and HB lines, in the other lines a few injuries would see a serious fallback. We've been very lucky with injuries in the 5 in a row run. 

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #894 on: September 16, 2019, 10:50:00 AM »
Testament to Dublin that they were able to bring on Connolly and still win. Bar one sweet pass, he was piss poor and could have cost them the game.  Must be hard to watch for Dublin players on the sidelines that have been putting in the hard yards all year.

Yes, he turned over ball at least 3 times coming into the home front. When possession was the name of the game.

I saw it that way too.

Well done to the Dubs. They are a great team and seem to always find a way to get it done. Until Cluxton goes I think it will stay that way and six and maybe even seven in a row are probable.
Con O'Callaghan should have been black carded but couldnt buy a free after it. The goal should have been blown for steps but remarkable to think it was a pre planned move (blocking and all).

It is up to the others to raise their standards but it will be difficult given the levels Dublin have got to. If you are a believer in the 10,000 hour rule the rest have a lot of time to put in. Kerry didnt look as fit over the two games - Murphy and Foley both went down with cramp ? They can work on that but need to find a bit more steel as well. If Tyrone spent less time on dark arts and more time playing football they can contend as well. Donegal also possible. Anyway it was good sport.







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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #895 on: September 16, 2019, 10:51:28 AM »
Kerry badly caught out by a set play from Dublin. . . they played it perfectly and got the little bit of luck for Murchan to pick up the ball the way he did. O'Brien was taken out of it by Fenton as he was trying to chase as well. It was very well executed but should have been blown for overcarrying from Murchan.

Yes he was being fouled but as far as I'm aware if he overcarries they have to come back for the original foul and Lane didn't have his hand up anyway.

It was end to end stuff between 2 very good teams thank god the game has evolved you could watch the Dubs and Kerry play all day long.
In  a normal situation a very good team starts to get tired after 4 or 5 years . The Dubs have a conveyor belt of talent to override this.
I don't know what the GAA expects to happen
Considering Kildare and Meath match us or beat us at minor level, do they also have the conveyor belt? And what about all the other counties winning minor and U20 titles at provincial and national? Kerry have the best conveyor belt for sure, Cork's is decent too.

Dublin's conveyor belt at midfield and half forward doesn't seem so hot at the moment and we had to bring Connolly back. We've a lot of talent in the FF and HB lines, in the other lines a few injuries would see a serious fallback. We've been very lucky with injuries in the 5 in a row run.

The conveyor belt seems to start at u20, Hound
Look at the titles in Leinster
It's all about where this is going.
 
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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #896 on: September 16, 2019, 11:46:45 AM »
Kerry badly caught out by a set play from Dublin. . . they played it perfectly and got the little bit of luck for Murchan to pick up the ball the way he did. O'Brien was taken out of it by Fenton as he was trying to chase as well. It was very well executed but should have been blown for overcarrying from Murchan.

Yes he was being fouled but as far as I'm aware if he overcarries they have to come back for the original foul and Lane didn't have his hand up anyway.

It was end to end stuff between 2 very good teams thank god the game has evolved you could watch the Dubs and Kerry play all day long.
In  a normal situation a very good team starts to get tired after 4 or 5 years . The Dubs have a conveyor belt of talent to override this.
I don't know what the GAA expects to happen
Considering Kildare and Meath match us or beat us at minor level, do they also have the conveyor belt? And what about all the other counties winning minor and U20 titles at provincial and national? Kerry have the best conveyor belt for sure, Cork's is decent too.

Dublin's conveyor belt at midfield and half forward doesn't seem so hot at the moment and we had to bring Connolly back. We've a lot of talent in the FF and HB lines, in the other lines a few injuries would see a serious fallback. We've been very lucky with injuries in the 5 in a row run.

The conveyor belt seems to start at u20, Hound
Look at the titles in Leinster
It's all about where this is going.

You can’t pump up 17/18 year old players so there is more of a level playing field.

Dublin’s big advantage comes in their Strength and Conditioning ,they have the sponsors to do it and
the science behind it down to professional levels.

Someone described them as having arms like bullocks necks ,probably won’t mean much to the Dubs but the rest of the country will understand. !

 

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #897 on: September 16, 2019, 12:12:47 PM »
4 ifs from All Ireland Final:

If Cathal McShane had of hauled down Tadgh Morley in the way Con O'Callaghan did would Spillane have said it was a black card? Answer YES

If Tiernan McCann scored the goal Murchan did would Spillane have said he took too many steps? Answer YES

If Tyrone played a counter attacking game a la Kerry would Spillane have called it a blanket defence? Answer YES

If Tyrone fans were fighting on Hill 16 like Kerry fans would it have made National headlines? Answer YES

TOTAL BIAS IN RTE AND WITHOUT BROLLY THERE IT WAS A REAL DUBLIN/KERRY LOVE IN!

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #898 on: September 16, 2019, 12:18:50 PM »
david moran cost Kerry, I thought
he was shocking in the second half

Kicked a few wides as did other Kerry players but he was their standout player this year IMO. There wouldn't have been a replay without him.

Agreed. What age is he? Kerry will need him if they want to win an all Ireland any time soon

I remarked to someone yesterday that if Aiden O Se did what Moran did yesterday that caused the goal we’d never hear the end of it

kerry get away with plenty just because of their tradition. the difference in the narrative around this kerry team compared to mayo, who were the only team to push Dublin is laughable. we're told that kerry have the gorgeous forwards and can kick a lovely point from anywhere in the park while mayo dont even have a marquee forward supposedly. and yet mayo pushed dublin harder and scored more than Kerry did against them in the 2017 final. the only reason people go on about kerry the way they do is because its kerry. likewise the narrative about them being squeaky clean while Dublin are thugs etc etc it's a joke.

it's a young team and has potential, but it's being overstated to a large degree. I saw nothing over the 2 games that convinced me that we're heading towards another period of Kerry dominance 

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #899 on: September 16, 2019, 12:21:54 PM »
Testament to Dublin that they were able to bring on Connolly and still win. Bar one sweet pass, he was piss poor and could have cost them the game.  Must be hard to watch for Dublin players on the sidelines that have been putting in the hard yards all year.

Yes, he turned over ball at least 3 times coming into the home front. When possession was the name of the game.

I saw it that way too.

Well done to the Dubs. They are a great team and seem to always find a way to get it done. Until Cluxton goes I think it will stay that way and six and maybe even seven in a row are probable.
Con O'Callaghan should have been black carded but couldnt buy a free after it. The goal should have been blown for steps but remarkable to think it was a pre planned move (blocking and all).

It is up to the others to raise their standards but it will be difficult given the levels Dublin have got to. If you are a believer in the 10,000 hour rule the rest have a lot of time to put in. Kerry didnt look as fit over the two games - Murphy and Foley both went down with cramp ? They can work on that but need to find a bit more steel as well. If Tyrone spent less time on dark arts and more time playing football they can contend as well. Donegal also possible. Anyway it was good sport.
I didn't see that the goal was preplanned, it just happened on the field, Murchan ran down a midfield bus corridor, he took his opportunity and went all the way,  where were all the Kerry players? why was there so much space to run in to? the Kerry players were occupied following players, none were covering the zones of space.