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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #450 on: September 01, 2019, 05:41:53 PM »
Cooper clearly pulled Clifford by the arm for the second yellow. Whelan and Brolly were talking nonsense that he fell down after getting body in front..

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #451 on: September 01, 2019, 05:43:04 PM »
Kerry need to find a way to curb McCaffrey's influence the next day. He scored 1-3 from wing-back, which is unheard of at this level.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #452 on: September 01, 2019, 05:48:10 PM »
Yeah, I don't know how Brolly and Whelan thought the Cooper/Clifford incident was a free out to Dublin.

It was as clear as day - Clifford tried to let the ball go past him and Cooper was caught on wrong side, knew that Clifford was on a free run through the centre so he pulled his arm.  It shows him pulling his arm, clearly.

I don't know what them two lads are about - clearly out of touch.


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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #453 on: September 01, 2019, 05:51:49 PM »
At least whelan has the excuse of being biased. What is brolly’s? Then he questions gough’s integrity for clearly making the correct call.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #454 on: September 01, 2019, 05:53:46 PM »
Great game and looking forward to replay

Cooper sending off was correct. Brolly talking through his hoop, as usual.


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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #455 on: September 01, 2019, 05:53:52 PM »
Cooper clearly pulled Clifford by the arm for the second yellow. Whelan and Brolly were talking nonsense that he fell down after getting body in front..

Cooper - a player I enjoy - has been getting away with a lot for a long time. Don’t know how the two geniuses in the studio thought that was a free out. But you never like to see a player get sent off on All-Ireland day. Canning too is desperate. His wrong reading of the Hawk-Eye was classic; a visit to Specsavers might be in order. Great game, so many players on both teams immense and several more with big potential to improve which makes replay for me a 50/50 game.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #456 on: September 01, 2019, 05:54:33 PM »
Kerry need to find a way to curb McCaffrey's influence the next day. He scored 1-3 from wing-back, which is unheard of at this level.
Partly because the Dub forwards were so poor
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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #457 on: September 01, 2019, 05:56:00 PM »
Yeah, I don't know how Brolly and Whelan thought the Cooper/Clifford incident was a free out to Dublin.

It was as clear as day - Clifford tried to let the ball go past him and Cooper was caught on wrong side, knew that Clifford was on a free run through the centre so he pulled his arm.  It shows him pulling his arm, clearly.

I don't know what them two lads are about - clearly out of touch.

Clifford bumped him in the back to let the ball go through... letter of the law it’s probably a free out. For some bizarre reason Cooper grabbed his arm so I can see why he was sent off but it wasn’t cut and dried.

Great game of football I only realised McCaffrey was 25 today what a player he’s brilliant and totally destroys the strength and conditioning myth around the game if you’re good enough you’re big enough.

Dublin made some big errors today namely leaving Cooper on Clifford and MDMA on the field as well as some horrible decision making in the last ten.

They won’t make those mistakes again though.

Kerry didn’t push on when they had the chance and paid for it but they’re a young team and will win All Ireland’s in the next few years. Not this one though.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #458 on: September 01, 2019, 05:57:10 PM »
People said Dublin would win easily here and that Mayo’s opportunity was gone after drawn finals yet they were wrong about today and Mayo were just as competitive in the replays.

Kerry have room for improvement too. Neither Geaney or Clifford had great games and they really need to look at their own kickouts again.

Great game and delighted Kerry, like Mayo before them, showed that the Dubs can be challenged. Should be great game the next day too.

Very true Zulu but also people were saying that Kerry have way better forwards than Mayo and forwards were always Mayo's weakness in their battles with Dublin but Kerry only managed the score Mayo got in 2017!!
It will be very interesting to see what changes are made by Dublin and by Kerry to try and improve.
It seems at this point in time. that Dublin have more room for improvement and Kerry won't have the buffer of a man advantage for 35 plus minutes the next day!
The inexperienced Kerry lads will have gained a lot from today's game and maybe Brian Fenton will have some doubts after being blanked by Jack Barry yet again??

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #459 on: September 01, 2019, 05:59:26 PM »

Gough was excellent.

Dublin didn’t quite get going today as a) they were rightly pulled up for fouling and b) Fenton (must have been injured) was a passenger. Gavin had an unusually poor game too.

He wasn't at all. Kerry should have finished with 14 players.

Maybe. Cooper got a warning, then a yellow then a red. O’Sullivan got his warning after the yellow. No matter what Gough did there someone would have called him inconsistent.

We’d a great game of football, and the refereeing played a major part in that. Men could hit each other and tackle each other, but dragging and pulling was a no-no.

Maybe referees should start punishing the better teams more so we get competitive matches.

So you don’t / can’t / won’t accept that Cooper was sent off for a third offence ?

O'Sullivan had also given away earlier frees in the game though

Yes but he clearly spoke to Cooper about deliberate fouling.

There are certain fouls/actions that are a yellow no matter what has went before. The tackle with the close fist into the ribs in the first half for example that he issued a noting for. The Crowley tackle with the foot that he did give a yellow for and the last foul by Sullivan that he didn't. It's the inconsistency that is frustrating.
Fist tackle to the body when attempting to get the ball is a noting. It is not a yellow as per the rules

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #460 on: September 01, 2019, 06:01:47 PM »
At least whelan has the excuse of being biased. What is brolly’s? Then he questions gough’s integrity for clearly making the correct call.

He wanted Dublin to win, because he’s a bandwagon jumper. Always praising winning teams, and telling us all he’s privy to their training methods, team talks and sleep habits. Kerry winning didn’t fit his agenda.

Sure the Dublin players all do charity work and have time for their fans. As if no other county in the country does that. Gobshite.

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #461 on: September 01, 2019, 06:02:41 PM »

Gough was excellent.

Dublin didn’t quite get going today as a) they were rightly pulled up for fouling and b) Fenton (must have been injured) was a passenger. Gavin had an unusually poor game too.

He wasn't at all. Kerry should have finished with 14 players.

Maybe. Cooper got a warning, then a yellow then a red. O’Sullivan got his warning after the yellow. No matter what Gough did there someone would have called him inconsistent.

We’d a great game of football, and the refereeing played a major part in that. Men could hit each other and tackle each other, but dragging and pulling was a no-no.

Maybe referees should start punishing the better teams more so we get competitive matches.

So you don’t / can’t / won’t accept that Cooper was sent off for a third offence ?

O'Sullivan had also given away earlier frees in the game though

Yes but he clearly spoke to Cooper about deliberate fouling.

There are certain fouls/actions that are a yellow no matter what has went before. The tackle with the close fist into the ribs in the first half for example that he issued a noting for. The Crowley tackle with the foot that he did give a yellow for and the last foul by Sullivan that he didn't. It's the inconsistency that is frustrating.
Fist tackle to the body when attempting to get the ball is a noting. It is not a yellow as per the rules

There was no attempt to get the ball though. O'Callaghan was flying past after getting the ball and he swung a closed fist into his midsection

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #462 on: September 01, 2019, 06:04:09 PM »
As a neutral the ref had a great game. Was constant mostly in his cards, no human us ever 100% consistent. Called off the ball fouling that dubs and kerry usually get away with. Thought he should have added a few mins at the end due to subs etc during injury time
. plus 1

+2 Ref was good

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #463 on: September 01, 2019, 06:12:54 PM »
Killarney or Nowhere for the replay lol

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Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« Reply #464 on: September 01, 2019, 06:30:27 PM »
Funny how the game turned out as before it the view from many was Kerry would not be wasteful like Tyrone and Mayo have been in recent All Ireland finals v Dublin yet they missed at least 3-5 there today.  Most myself included couldn't see such a porous defence being able to have a competitive game v Dublin yet on the big day they delivered their best defensive performance this summer and i can imagine that improvement was in no small part to Donie Buckley who also had Mayo so well set in up defence v Dublin. (will need more of the same for the replay)

Now the sending off had a huge bearing on the game. I think it was the correct call but it should have been 14 a side 2nd half. @Farrandeelin to be far the late free from Rock was a far more difficult one than his winning free from 2017.  A missed opportunity for Kerry? i think so but i think Kerry showed today that there is AI in this group of players in the foreseeable future.