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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #120 on: August 08, 2019, 08:05:15 PM »
Mayo people traveling  en mass this weekend. Safe in the knowledge that their hard earned money spent on Match tickets will  help maintain the employment of GDOs in Dublin GAA for another year. Top Job!

Always good to know you are secure in your job. It's needed as well based on how our minor teams struggled this year. GAA needs a successful Dublin

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« Reply #121 on: August 08, 2019, 08:22:37 PM »
Just providing some facts and figures for your viewing pleasure.

A lot of the players that will line out at on Saturday would have been underage in 2007, that year:
Dublin received 1,603,903 in games development funding.
Mayo received 7,475.

2008
Dublin - 1,637,380
Mayo - 25,900.

2009
Dublin - 1,638,000
Mayo - 45,500.

2010
Dublin - 1,588,000
Mayo - 43,500.

2011
Dublin - 1,371,333
Mayo - 42,000

2012
Dublin - 1,509,631
Mayo - 35,920

I think you get the picture.
How much did mayo get from connacht gaa and Dublin from Leinster?

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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #122 on: August 08, 2019, 08:25:25 PM »
Mayo people traveling  en mass this weekend. Safe in the knowledge that their hard earned money spent on Match tickets will  help maintain the employment of GDOs in Dublin GAA for another year. Top Job!

Always good to know you are secure in your job. It's needed as well based on how our minor teams struggled this year. GAA needs a successful Dublin

When ye more than likely beat us on Saturday. I'll be shouting for ye in the final. I want ye to continue to win AI after AI. The more in a row he win, the smaller the gates, the smaller the advertising money, the sooner the Gaa cop on.

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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #123 on: August 08, 2019, 09:49:48 PM »
If itís wet and windy who benefits more, Dublin or Mayo?
With all our hot weather training camps and indoor state of the art facilities, our lads can't even remember what wind and rain feels like!

Please let their be sun. And heat.

I suppose a plague of locusts is out of the question?

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« Reply #124 on: August 08, 2019, 09:56:29 PM »
I've no problem with rooting for Dublin for the final if somehow they manage to beat us.
I have spent my working life working in the capital and I've lots of friends who are true blue GAA folk.
I don't hold the Dubs responsible for the mess the Gah is in and I suppose any other county would do the same and hog everything that they could claim. If other counties have issues about development grants it's up to the counties in question to kick up hell because nobody is in the habit of doling out money unless they have to.
Anyway, I don't think JH and his men are too hung up about any perceived funding bias right now. I'd say they can't wait for the throw in and if they can't stop the Dubs in their tracks, nobody else would be able to do it either.
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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #125 on: August 08, 2019, 09:58:25 PM »
I've no problem with rooting for Dublin for the final if somehow they manage to beat us.
I have spent my working life working in the capital and I've lots of friends who are true blue GAA folk.
I don't hold the Dubs responsible for the mess the Gah is in and I suppose any other county would do the same and hog everything that they could claim. If other counties have issues about development grants it's up to the counties in question to kick up hell because nobody is in the habit of doling out money unless they have to.
Anyway, I don't think JH and his men are too hung up about any perceived funding bias right now. I'd say they can't wait for the throw in and if they can't stop the Dubs in their tracks, nobody else would be able to do it either.

Exactly Lar. And they'll put up one helluva fight to ensure the Dubs will be stopped.
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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #126 on: August 08, 2019, 10:08:51 PM »
Hi boy's, wouldn't it be poetic justice after all those glorious failures, if Mayo could stop Dublin's five in a row.

Wouldnt it be fantastic if they could get the job done.

However I would have no faith they could actually go on and finish the job regardless of opposition which would be typical of this Mayo team.

A superb team who give their all but just cant seem to finish the job - so many things always transpire against them

Yes Dublin have got in their way nearly every year.  Not a big ask for them to beat Dublin once in that period. I'm sure if another team met them as many times, they'd have beaten Dublin at least once or at least came close in that period.

What are the odds on Mayo ending Dublinís ďfive in a row ď and Kerry winning the All Ireland ? Could be a winner 😀

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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #127 on: August 08, 2019, 10:17:23 PM »
Just providing some facts and figures for your viewing pleasure.

A lot of the players that will line out at on Saturday would have been underage in 2007, that year:
Dublin received 1,603,903 in games development funding.
Mayo received 7,475.

2008
Dublin - 1,637,380
Mayo - 25,900.

2009
Dublin - 1,638,000
Mayo - 45,500.

2010
Dublin - 1,588,000
Mayo - 43,500.

2011
Dublin - 1,371,333
Mayo - 42,000

2012
Dublin - 1,509,631
Mayo - 35,920

I think you get the picture.
How much did mayo get from connacht gaa and Dublin from Leinster?

I don't know what Mayo got. Here's what Dublin got from Leinster GAA:

2006 - 360,006
2007 - 245,000
2008 - 245,000
2009 - 245,000
2010 - 245,000
2011 - 222,761
2012 - 241,050
2013 - 241,050
2014 - 241,050
2015 - 241,050
2016 - 241,045
2017 - 239,700
2018 - 239,700

So the greedy, thieving b**tards took money off the Leinster council as well. Let's not forget that this is just the ground level of the doping. It plays a key part in the whole system of developing players but after that, there are many more layers that stretch all the way to their senior teams.

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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #128 on: August 08, 2019, 10:21:08 PM »


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What a waste of time Sundayís game in Omagh was. If you were left it in a will, youíd contest it. All-expenses paid, nice hotel, good feeding, all the rest of it Ė youíd still go back and ask if there was maybe something else there for you. At least an old clock might do you some use somewhere down the line.

Everybody has their own ideas about the Super 8s but to me thereís a couple of things that stare you right in the face. The first is the timing. Itís seriously wrong to give players only six or seven days to prepare for an All-Ireland semi-final. I donít know who is responsible for that but I can tell you for damn sure they never played in one.

It shows no understanding of what goes into playing these games. It basically tells these guys that the GAA does not care in the slightest about the demands the sport puts on its players. It tells them that it doesnít value them or their time or their work/life balance or any of that stuff.

Weíre told all the time that being amateur is the most fundamental thing about the GAA and then the fixture-makers force lads who have to go to work every day to play an All-Ireland semi-final with six days notice. How could that be seen as anything other than the GAA telling players that theyíre way, way down the food chain?

No wonder Tyrone and Dublin played B teams on Sunday. In hindsight, Iím nearly surprised they didnít just throw 15 jerseys apiece into the crowd.

I donít know how anyone can take the Super 8s as a guide to anything thatís going to happen this weekend
The other thing about the Super 8s Ė and this is less important, obviously, but itís true all the same Ė is that it means weíre all guessing to a certain extent going into this weekend. How is anyone supposed to draw a coherent formline from the games that have taken place over the past month?


Kerry hammered Mayo and then Donegal drew with Kerry and then Mayo walked all over Donegal. The Dubs looked a bit shaky at times against Cork but were given no game whatsoever by Roscommon and then Roscommon went to Cork and beat them on their home patch. I donít know how anyone can take the Super 8s as a guide to anything thatís going to happen this weekend.

What do we know for sure? We know that Dublin will bring a performance that wonít dip below a certain level. Any team that can afford to leave Stephen Cluxton, Brian Fenton, Jack McCaffrey and Paul Mannion and the rest of them at home with their feet up and a cup of tea beside them and still be easy winners on the road, we donít need to fret for.

The Dubs will be the Dubs. The question is what will Mayo bring with them. We can make a decent guess at Mayoís formline because of the four teams left, theyíre the only ones who had a game last weekend where everything was on the line and nothing existed beyond the final whistle.

Mayo donít have to go searching for form and they wonít need the first 15 minutes to get to the pitch of things. They know what it is to be at full pelt, theyíll go from the first whistle as if their backs are to the wall. In that respect, it will be up to the Dubs to match them in the early exchanges.

Real physicality
You only had to watch that Donegal game to see what real physicality is in a football match. This was big boy stuff and it made most of the Donegal players wilt in the face of it. Only Michael Murphy was able to live with it and he damn near dragged Donegal through it on his own. I was nearly more taken with Murphy in defeat the other night than in some of the games Donegal have won this year. He was heroic but Mayo made sure he didnít get enough help from elsewhere in the team.

People talk about physicality a lot without ever really defining what it means. To me, itís nothing too much more complicated than being able to hold your ground and not get knocked off what you want to do.

Like most people, I thought Murphy was pretty fortunate to get the penalty on Saturday night. But he got it because he had the physicality to be able to position himself in front of Lee Keegan and force Keegan to have to grab a hold of his shirt to get at the ball. The penalty call went his way because he had put himself in that position and didnít get knocked off it.

It was about the only physical exchange Mayo lost all night. Otherwise, those physical exchanges are where Mayo flourish. Itís Colm Boyle throwing himself into a tackle with abandon. Itís Aidan OíShea standing up a man with a tackle and knocking the ball loose. Itís Keegan, Chris Barrett, Paddy Durcan, even up as far as Cillian OíConnor, all being able to go into a tackle and know theyíve got the conditioning to go again if they have to.

I always think of physicality like the tyres on a racing car. If the tyres are a bit worn down, you have to take a bit more care going around a corner because the important thing is that you at least stay upright. But if the tyres are good, you can let loose and go full throttle, happy in the knowledge that youíre not going to flip over.


Mayo are at their best when theyíre going full throttle Ė they know they have the tyres for it.

Now, Dublin know that too, obviously. Thatís why weíve seen so many epic encounters between the two teams. Can we get it again on Saturday? Iím not so sure. I think now, more than ever, Dublin have the edge in most areas.

Brian Fenton: his midfield partnership with Michael Darragh Macauley ensures a perfect combination of fielding, power, energy and scoring ability. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho
Brian Fenton: his midfield partnership with Michael Darragh Macauley ensures a perfect combination of fielding, power, energy and scoring ability. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho
Youíd back most of their forwards to score more than their equivalent Mayo attacker. Fenton and Michael Darragh Macauley are near enough the perfect midfield in terms of a combination of fielding, power, energy, scoring power. The OíShea brothers are the match of them (at least) in a lot of departments but theyíll hardly outscore them. The Mayo defence is a serious unit but the Dubs havenít conceded a goal from play all summer.

Huge loss
Jason Doherty is a huge loss for Mayo. When Mayo are at their best, when they are constantly turning over ball in their own defence and breaking out in packs, the element that keeps the whole thing moving is a dependable ball-winner in the half-forward line.

The fact that they play at such a helter-skelter pace means itís vital that out ball sticks. Doherty is as good as Andy Moran in winning his own ball and laying it off and heís usually fairly good when shooting as well. James Horan has a big call to make there when it comes to replacing him.

Even if Doherty was available, Iíd have to side with Dublin. Jim Gavin has played everything perfectly so far and heís going into the semi-final with no worries. Mayo have a kick in them but I donít see it being enough to outlast the Dubs in the end.

In the other semi-final, youíre looking at two teams who have improved this year and wondering who has improved the most. Tyrone are coming from being in an All-Ireland final, whereas Kerry didnít make it through the Super 8s last year. So the question is whether Kerry have gone past Tyrone in the space of 12 months.

Tyrone havenít really changed the way they play. Cathal McShane has been the major difference, in that he is a constant danger on the edge of the square. He gives them a target man and allows them keep their shape better. In other years, the player they had in that spot was a Connor McAliskey or a Darren McCurry. McShane is a different beast and definitely an upgrade.

But I still think that the sheer amount of bodies they play behind the ball counts against them in Croke Park. It was only when Mattie Donnelly doubled up inside with McShane against Cork that they kicked into gear. I presume they will do that at some stage against Kerry but I donít know if they have enough faith in it.

In times of stress, itís human nature to go back to what you know best. Tyroneís fallback is a containing game based on a packed defence that converts into a running game when they force a turnover. It works against Ulster teams and it works against the teams that are a tier or two below the contenders. It hasnít worked against any of the really top-level teams in a long time.

The question is, are Kerry a really top-level team?

The win over Mayo in Killarney suggests that theyíre getting there anyway. That was a day when they came in unproven, with a score to settle against a team that had bullied them in the league final and with plenty of questions about their readiness for the battle. And they answered them all.


Best game
Kerry forced their game on Mayo that day and took them to town. They had a test to pass and they came through with flying colours. They werenít exactly found wanting against Donegal either in the best game of the summer so far.

I have plenty of worries about the Kerry defence but, in an odd sort of a way, I think this kind of test suits them. Some of the Kerry lads arenít the best one-on-one markers around the place but outside of a few key players such as Peter Harte, Donnelly and McShane, Tyrone donít really make that an issue. Instead, they put an onus on athleticism and covering every blade of grass. Kerry wonít mind that too much.

David Clifford: his accuracy, along with the likes of SeŠn OíShea, Paul Geaney and Stephen OíBrien, can help Kerry prevail against Tyrone on Sunday. Photograph: Bryan Keane/Inpho
David Clifford: his accuracy, along with the likes of SeŠn OíShea, Paul Geaney and Stephen OíBrien, can help Kerry prevail against Tyrone on Sunday. Photograph: Bryan Keane/Inpho
At the other end of the pitch, I would expect Kerry to do well. Dublin have shown the way to play against Tyrone Ė be patient, donít take the ball into contact, find the right shooters in the right positions, take your scores. David Clifford, SeŠn OíShea, Paul Geaney, Stephen OíBrien Ė between them, Iíd expect them to take their scores and put up a good enough total to win.

A big weekend with a lot of X-factors but at the end of it, I think weíll have a Dublin v Kerry final.



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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #129 on: August 08, 2019, 10:31:22 PM »
Just providing some facts and figures for your viewing pleasure.

A lot of the players that will line out at on Saturday would have been underage in 2007, that year:
Dublin received 1,603,903 in games development funding.
Mayo received 7,475.

2008
Dublin - 1,637,380
Mayo - 25,900.

2009
Dublin - 1,638,000
Mayo - 45,500.

2010
Dublin - 1,588,000
Mayo - 43,500.

2011
Dublin - 1,371,333
Mayo - 42,000

2012
Dublin - 1,509,631
Mayo - 35,920

I think you get the picture.
How much did mayo get from connacht gaa and Dublin from Leinster?

I don't know what Mayo got. Here's what Dublin got from Leinster GAA:

2006 - 360,006
2007 - 245,000
2008 - 245,000
2009 - 245,000
2010 - 245,000
2011 - 222,761
2012 - 241,050
2013 - 241,050
2014 - 241,050
2015 - 241,050
2016 - 241,045
2017 - 239,700
2018 - 239,700

So the greedy, thieving b**tards took money off the Leinster council as well. Let's not forget that this is just the ground level of the doping. It plays a key part in the whole system of developing players but after that, there are many more layers that stretch all the way to their senior teams.

So all during the time during the noughties that Tyrone were handing Pillarís team their asses on a plate the Dubs were skimming a cool 2 million a year from the GAA and have been every year since while other counties get a pittance?    A national disgrace.   

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« Reply #130 on: August 08, 2019, 10:57:21 PM »
Just providing some facts and figures for your viewing pleasure.

A lot of the players that will line out at on Saturday would have been underage in 2007, that year:
Dublin received 1,603,903 in games development funding.
Mayo received 7,475.

2008
Dublin - 1,637,380
Mayo - 25,900.

2009
Dublin - 1,638,000
Mayo - 45,500.

2010
Dublin - 1,588,000
Mayo - 43,500.

2011
Dublin - 1,371,333
Mayo - 42,000

2012
Dublin - 1,509,631
Mayo - 35,920

I think you get the picture.
How much did mayo get from connacht gaa and Dublin from Leinster?

I don't know what Mayo got. Here's what Dublin got from Leinster GAA:

2006 - 360,006
2007 - 245,000
2008 - 245,000
2009 - 245,000
2010 - 245,000
2011 - 222,761
2012 - 241,050
2013 - 241,050
2014 - 241,050
2015 - 241,050
2016 - 241,045
2017 - 239,700
2018 - 239,700

So the greedy, thieving b**tards took money off the Leinster council as well. Let's not forget that this is just the ground level of the doping. It plays a key part in the whole system of developing players but after that, there are many more layers that stretch all the way to their senior teams.

So all during the time during the noughties that Tyrone were handing Pillarís team their asses on a plate the Dubs were skimming a cool 2 million a year from the GAA and have been every year since while other counties get a pittance?    A national disgrace.

From the GAA and everybody else!! sc**bag Bertie Ahern was dipping his hands into taxpayers pockets to fund them. It started in 2001. Have a read:

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/gaa-football/3191859/bertie-ahern-government-grants-saved-dublin-gaa/

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« Reply #131 on: August 08, 2019, 10:57:59 PM »
I've no problem with rooting for Dublin for the final if somehow they manage to beat us.
I have spent my working life working in the capital and I've lots of friends who are true blue GAA folk.
I don't hold the Dubs responsible for the mess the Gah is in and I suppose any other county would do the same and hog everything that they could claim. If other counties have issues about development grants it's up to the counties in question to kick up hell because nobody is in the habit of doling out money unless they have to.
Anyway, I don't think JH and his men are too hung up about any perceived funding bias right now. I'd say they can't wait for the throw in and if they can't stop the Dubs in their tracks, nobody else would be able to do it either.

Sound man Lar (as always). Iím nervous about Saturday because we have always struggled against Mayo and Iím sure that your team will play like demons.
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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #132 on: August 08, 2019, 11:24:36 PM »
Just providing some facts and figures for your viewing pleasure.

A lot of the players that will line out at on Saturday would have been underage in 2007, that year:
Dublin received 1,603,903 in games development funding.
Mayo received 7,475.

2008
Dublin - 1,637,380
Mayo - 25,900.

2009
Dublin - 1,638,000
Mayo - 45,500.

2010
Dublin - 1,588,000
Mayo - 43,500.

2011
Dublin - 1,371,333
Mayo - 42,000

2012
Dublin - 1,509,631
Mayo - 35,920

I think you get the picture.
How much did mayo get from connacht gaa and Dublin from Leinster?

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Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« Reply #133 on: August 09, 2019, 08:04:13 AM »
If there's a draw after 70 mins, does it go to extra time or straight to replay?

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« Reply #134 on: August 09, 2019, 10:00:44 AM »
I've no problem with rooting for Dublin for the final if somehow they manage to beat us.
I have spent my working life working in the capital and I've lots of friends who are true blue GAA folk.
I don't hold the Dubs responsible for the mess the Gah is in and I suppose any other county would do the same and hog everything that they could claim. If other counties have issues about development grants it's up to the counties in question to kick up hell because nobody is in the habit of doling out money unless they have to.
Anyway, I don't think JH and his men are too hung up about any perceived funding bias right now. I'd say they can't wait for the throw in and if they can't stop the Dubs in their tracks, nobody else would be able to do it either.

Sound man Lar (as always). Iím nervous about Saturday because we have always struggled against Mayo and Iím sure that your team will play like demons.

The only sound man in Mayo it seems.

Best of luck to all teams this weekend.