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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #360 on: October 07, 2019, 11:41:42 PM »
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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #361 on: October 08, 2019, 08:50:58 AM »
It does look bad for our CB. I doubt that the hours he will have to devote to Kerry u20s will be much less than the time he would give to Laois seniors. What on earth was he looking for that our CB could not provide? If he⁹ does well, it looks certain he will get the senior job down there eventually.

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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #362 on: October 08, 2019, 09:03:42 AM »
I suspect this Kerry U20 thing has been floating around for some time. It is a huge job with massive expectations. They won 5 all Ireland minors in a row and John will be entrusted with transitioning them from minor to senior. If he does well he could well be the next Kerry senior boss with a huge haul of talent at his disposal. Compare those prospects with keeping Laois in division 2, with a very limited pipeline and resources and an unambitious county board.

He's nothing if not cute.

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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #363 on: October 08, 2019, 09:16:40 AM »
Jesus Don
Definitely less work strain but I'm sure the truth will come out some day and it won't paint a pretty picture for our county board.

Quirke ratified tonight , still no word on back room team .
f**k him, you read his previous post.

Enjoy the trip to watch Kerry U20ís Don,  It never changes in Laois.  New man we all fawn over him, now he f**ks us and gives us two fingers we wish him well.  Could you imagine Sugrue doing it the other way what Kerry would think of him.  Wishing him well what sort of mentality is that.  No doubt Sugrue did a good job but this is self serving.  Quirke is nothing more than a club manager moving up the ladder before he takes his next job promotion with Kerry under 15ís.

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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #364 on: October 08, 2019, 10:49:26 AM »
Jesus Don
Definitely less work strain but I'm sure the truth will come out some day and it won't paint a pretty picture for our county board.

Quirke ratified tonight , still no word on back room team .
f**k him, you read his previous post.



Enjoy the trip to watch Kerry U20ís Don,  It never changes in Laois.  New man we all fawn over him, now he f**ks us and gives us two fingers we wish him well.  Could you imagine Sugrue doing it the other way what Kerry would think of him.  Wishing him well what sort of mentality is that.  No doubt Sugrue did a good job but this is self serving.  Quirke is nothing more than a club manager moving up the ladder before he takes his next job promotion with Kerry under 15ís.

Why would we not wish him well? The man gave good service and clearly had a positive impact on Laois. None of us know what happened in the finish, but I'm pretty certain about the conclusion I would draw from Sugrue departing. And if I'm right, that would only make him more honourable in my opinion. That is why I wish him well, and until I hear otherwise, I can only assume that it's another own goal for Laois GAA and its officers.

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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #365 on: October 08, 2019, 11:47:43 AM »
Jesus Don
Definitely less work strain but I'm sure the truth will come out some day and it won't paint a pretty picture for our county board.

Quirke ratified tonight , still no word on back room team .
f**k him, you read his previous post.

Before going further let me state I think John Sugrue did a good job as Laois Manager.

However your post proves my point



Enjoy the trip to watch Kerry U20ís Don,  It never changes in Laois.  New man we all fawn over him, now he f**ks us and gives us two fingers we wish him well.  Could you imagine Sugrue doing it the other way what Kerry would think of him.  Wishing him well what sort of mentality is that.  No doubt Sugrue did a good job but this is self serving.  Quirke is nothing more than a club manager moving up the ladder before he takes his next job promotion with Kerry under 15ís.

Why would we not wish him well? The man gave good service and clearly had a positive impact on Laois. None of us know what happened in the finish, but I'm pretty certain about the conclusion I would draw from Sugrue departing. And if I'm right, that would only make him more honourable in my opinion. That is why I wish him well, and until I hear otherwise, I can only assume that it's another own goal for Laois GAA and its officers.

First let me say that I think John Sugrue did a good job with Laois.

However your post is clearly proving my point.  You are willing to assume John was right in Laois while also assuming that the County Board was wrong.  I am not saying that your assumption is incorrect but there is no real evidence either ways. Just that you are far more willing to forgive John Sugrue a paid appointee over volunteers who are unpaid.   That saying maybe I should have no gripe with Sugrue moving on as for him Laois was a career move and he can be dispassionate.  I doubt in Kerry he will operate under the same freedom of management that he did in Laois.  But I do genuinely think it's some kick in the teeth for Laois Players & Supporters that he is willing to take what many would think a step down.    This is very much self serving by Sugrue and if you want to cheer lead him in the Kerry job good for you.   As they say we are no longer compatible.
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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #366 on: October 08, 2019, 12:02:13 PM »
Lads, it's probable a stepping stone to the Kerry job. The Laois job wouldn't be that.

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« Reply #367 on: October 08, 2019, 12:07:40 PM »
Wait, newsflash. The Laois senior football managers role is NOT the most attractive role in the country? I am shocked. It looks like Johns ultimate role would be to be manager of Kerry senior footballers and good luck to him.

Plenty of journey men have come to Laois taken a few coins of silver and done sod all, he took the role and brought the team back to Div 2, in other word he did a good job. Other people noticed this, not just the people on this message board and now he has other offers.

The guy is from Kerry so his long term plan may be to move back one day or should we call him names if he does this? I would imagine Quirkes long term goal would be to manage Kerry seniors also, if he wants a shot at it he would have to also improve Laois, would you not be willing to accept this? or would you rather we appoint Luke Dempsey

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« Reply #368 on: October 08, 2019, 12:09:22 PM »
Firstly I did not call anyone names.

It's an avenue to the Kerry Senior Job but is that any way certain ?  A lot of uncertainties in that for a man who lives in Portlaoise.

I thought we were talking about Laois GAA, not a talent academy for Kerry ?  Is that the limit of our ambitions !  I would much prefer to be like Monaghan, Roscommon or Armagh, have some pride in your County.  Better "One day as a Lion than a life time as Lamb". 

Kerry have won 5 minors but U20 has been underwhelming with Jack O Connor for all the reasons that we know be it the Calendar and rule on inter-county players.

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« Reply #369 on: October 08, 2019, 12:39:06 PM »
A talent academy for Kerry? What are you even talking about? The man lived in Portlaoise and knew plenty about local football already. Enough to sort the wheat from the chaff which a lot of previous coaches had a hard time doing. What is your net point exactly? That you object to people wishing him well? That you think we're an academy for Kerry? I'm a little lost in the blurb

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« Reply #370 on: October 08, 2019, 01:49:39 PM »
Kerry have not exactly been prolific at U20/U21 grade winning Munster 3 times since 2000 and 1 All Ireland.  Not exactly a pathway to managing Kerry Seniors.



 


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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #371 on: October 08, 2019, 02:08:01 PM »
He's a Kerryman first and foremost. That carries a lot of weight. As for other reasons, they may be plentiful or few. Who knows? We were told nothing, just to keep the money flowing and trust that everything is being done correctly. That isn't enough though. This episode has left a very sour taste in the mouth of a lot of people, and I include myself in that. The only thing I blame Sugrue for is not being honest with supporters. That showed a lack of respect. But maybe if we knew the full story, I could be in a position to withdraw that remark. I pay a lot of money to Laois GAA and devote a lot of my free time as well. It's not good enough to be treated this way

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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #372 on: October 08, 2019, 02:32:10 PM »
Kerry have not exactly been prolific at U20/U21 grade winning Munster 3 times since 2000 and 1 All Ireland.  Not exactly a pathway to managing Kerry Seniors.
Peter Keane
Eamon Fitzmaurice
Jack O Connor
Pat O Shea
JOC
Paidi
Ogie

How many of them didn't manage Kerry U20 sides or an underage side for Kerry?

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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #373 on: October 08, 2019, 02:47:27 PM »
Don't disagree with you Don but success was the key to all those appointments for some unknown reason of late Kerry have not been that good at U20/U21.  I would see this as a bit of coup for Kerry to get a young up and coming man with inter county management experience as their U20 manager and who know where that goes.  John Sugrue gets albeit with a  gamble back into the reckoning for Kerry. 

But my gripe is Laois, what do we get ?  We got shafted.  This is an absolute sicker and while I like John and I rate him as a manager.  Going on like nothing has happened and wishing him luck as he moves on to better things while we trudge on in the shit is not my idea of a good time.   


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Re: Next Laois football manager
« Reply #374 on: October 08, 2019, 02:56:46 PM »
But what do you want? What would you like/expect to happen?