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sid waddell

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2019, 11:50:59 AM »
Dublin are the best because allied to their natural advantage in terms of playing population, they work harder than at least 26 other teams

Ray Boyne was totally right when he said that yet he got nothing but dog's abuse for telling an uncomfortable truth

So many counties want success handed to them without having to work for it and you see that attitude reflected here to a huge degree

A few days ago New Zealand with their population of 4.79 million beat India with their population of 1.34 billion in the World Cup semi-final in Cricket

Croatia which has a population of 4.15 million people, reached the World Cup final last year, beating Russia with 144 million people and England with 55 miliion people

How on earth can such things happen, one wonders

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2019, 11:53:56 AM »
The only thing that will stop the GAA pumping money into Dublin is a collapse in attendances.
They can’t fund the project without gate receipts. Unfortunately for them the Super 8 is as lopsided as everything else. Sport without competition is a turn off for fans. RTÉ can’t charge the same ad rates for matches people won’t watch.

« Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. »

 Flannery O’Connor

Yes, this is why I want Dublin to win and win and win. Attendances will die. Money will dry up and Headquarters will have no choice but to change the funding.

Cork beating Dublin would have been a disaster yesterday.

The darkest time is before dawn.

Change what funding

Dublin don't have an outsize number of Games Promotion Officers compared to other counties

Funding GPOs is the very definition of investing in the grass roots and communities

The grass roots in Dublin seems to be irrelevant to most country people, they would rather see clubs in Dublin die

That's a horribly sneering attitude

Dublin has around 90 clubs, it's not a massive amount relatively speaking

The GAA hasn’t found a way to promote football in the metro area without
destroying the All Ireland

Maybe the GAA could contract out management of the All Ireland to people who understand sport dynamics. That would free up the GAA to fight the war against soccer and rugby in suburbia .
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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2019, 12:09:41 PM »
The only thing that will stop the GAA pumping money into Dublin is a collapse in attendances.
They can’t fund the project without gate receipts. Unfortunately for them the Super 8 is as lopsided as everything else. Sport without competition is a turn off for fans. RTÉ can’t charge the same ad rates for matches people won’t watch.

« Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. »

 Flannery O’Connor

Yes, this is why I want Dublin to win and win and win. Attendances will die. Money will dry up and Headquarters will have no choice but to change the funding.

Cork beating Dublin would have been a disaster yesterday.

The darkest time is before dawn.

Change what funding

Dublin don't have an outsize number of Games Promotion Officers compared to other counties

Funding GPOs is the very definition of investing in the grass roots and communities

The grass roots in Dublin seems to be irrelevant to most country people, they would rather see clubs in Dublin die

That's a horribly sneering attitude

Dublin has around 90 clubs, it's not a massive amount relatively speaking

The GAA hasn’t found a way to promote football in the metro area without
destroying the All Ireland

Maybe the GAA could contract out management of the All Ireland to people who understand sport dynamics. That would free up the GAA to fight the war against soccer and rugby in suburbia .
Dublin's current dominance at senior level has little if anything to do with grass roots funding

Grass roots funding is about participation and community

That's supposed to be the definition of what the GAA is about

Just because a lot of people live in Dublin doesn't mean grass roots participation and community is any less important

In fact promotion of grass roots GAA and offering an attractive outlet for youngsters to get and stay fit and to develop friendships and life skills is probably more important in Dublin than anywhere else as there are so many other things that compete with GAA

Stephen Cluxton didn't emerge from a hothouse, neither did Jim Gavin, the Brogans, Diarmuid Connolly, Paul Flynn, James McCarthy, Jack McCaffrey or anybody else

Dublin's record at minor level is very patchy, Kildare have had a considerable upper hand over Dublin at that level in recent years - Dublin have won one All-Ireland minor title since 1984

That proves that what's happening at grass roots is not the determining factor of what happens at senior inter-county level

While Dublin have a good record at u-21 level in the last decade, they're far from dominant

Counties need to look at why Dublin are jumping ahead to a lesser extent at u-21 level and to a greater extent at senior

The answer largely lies in superior coaching and a superior work ethic allied to the advantage in playing population

The county system was never designed to be fair - it was designed to create teams and competitions that create a sense of place and local rivalry, both at inter county and club level

Representative sport based on places with different populations is inherently unequal - it is in every sport

Yet Germany still play against Gibraltar or San Marino

Dublin will always be contenders but they will not always be dominant, this team will lose sooner or later and whoever beats them will dine out on it for the rest of their lives and be treated as heroes

Then people will wonder what all the fuss about Dublin's supposedly unprecedented dominance, which is in fact not unprecedented at all, was about





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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2019, 12:18:57 PM »
Cork have improved bigtime. They didnt stop and i hope they give Tyrone a game....could be a cracker. Hurley is a beast. The Vikiing and Loughrey were impressive too

They have improved their forward play and are decent in midfield but they are awful defensively and a side as poor as that in defense are highly unlikely to give Tyrone a game in Croke Park, i foresee Tyrone scoring about 3-20 at least.

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2019, 12:25:17 PM »
Dermo is BACK

And this time it's for real

Straight from Trash Talk's mouth

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #125 on: July 14, 2019, 12:29:07 PM »
Dermo is BACK

And this time it's for real

Straight from Trash Talk's mouth
Yeah Jim mentioned Dermo is back training with squad

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2019, 02:22:49 PM »
The only thing that will stop the GAA pumping money into Dublin is a collapse in attendances.
They can’t fund the project without gate receipts. Unfortunately for them the Super 8 is as lopsided as everything else. Sport without competition is a turn off for fans. RTÉ can’t charge the same ad rates for matches people won’t watch.

« Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. »

 Flannery O’Connor

Yes, this is why I want Dublin to win and win and win. Attendances will die. Money will dry up and Headquarters will have no choice but to change the funding.

Cork beating Dublin would have been a disaster yesterday.

The darkest time is before dawn.

Change what funding

Dublin don't have an outsize number of Games Promotion Officers compared to other counties

Funding GPOs is the very definition of investing in the grass roots and communities

The grass roots in Dublin seems to be irrelevant to most country people, they would rather see clubs in Dublin die

That's a horribly sneering attitude

Dublin has around 90 clubs, it's not a massive amount relatively speaking

Kilmacud Crokes have Adult teams in Division 1, 2, 5, 7, 8 and 10. That's 6 adult teams. Vincents have 4 Adult teams in Divisions 1,3,6 and 9.  So when you talk of 90 clubs, these clubs are not like Junior Clubs in Mayo, Kerry, Galway or Donegal. Most of them are monsters.


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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2019, 02:48:22 PM »
The only thing that will stop the GAA pumping money into Dublin is a collapse in attendances.
They can’t fund the project without gate receipts. Unfortunately for them the Super 8 is as lopsided as everything else. Sport without competition is a turn off for fans. RTÉ can’t charge the same ad rates for matches people won’t watch.

« Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. »

 Flannery O’Connor

Yes, this is why I want Dublin to win and win and win. Attendances will die. Money will dry up and Headquarters will have no choice but to change the funding.

Cork beating Dublin would have been a disaster yesterday.

The darkest time is before dawn.

Change what funding

Dublin don't have an outsize number of Games Promotion Officers compared to other counties

Funding GPOs is the very definition of investing in the grass roots and communities

The grass roots in Dublin seems to be irrelevant to most country people, they would rather see clubs in Dublin die

That's a horribly sneering attitude

Dublin has around 90 clubs, it's not a massive amount relatively speaking

Kilmacud Crokes have Adult teams in Division 1, 2, 5, 7, 8 and 10. That's 6 adult teams. Vincents have 4 Adult teams in Divisions 1,3,6 and 9.  So when you talk of 90 clubs, these clubs are not like Junior Clubs in Mayo, Kerry, Galway or Donegal. Most of them are monsters.

How does a match thread turn into funding.  We already 9/10 threads on this 😂😂😂 FTB you must have having personal issues but Dublin gaa is not good for health. Watch mayo and Kerry or go to club game. More to live than obsessing about Kerry and the dubs.

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2019, 02:59:10 PM »
Dermo is BACK

And this time it's for real

Straight from Trash Talk's mouth

http://www.hoganstand.com/Dublin/Article/Index/301685
I remember Dublin City in the Rare Old Times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7OaDDR7i8

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2019, 06:02:46 PM »
The only thing that will stop the GAA pumping money into Dublin is a collapse in attendances.
They can’t fund the project without gate receipts. Unfortunately for them the Super 8 is as lopsided as everything else. Sport without competition is a turn off for fans. RTÉ can’t charge the same ad rates for matches people won’t watch.

« Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. »

 Flannery O’Connor

Yes, this is why I want Dublin to win and win and win. Attendances will die. Money will dry up and Headquarters will have no choice but to change the funding.

Cork beating Dublin would have been a disaster yesterday.

The darkest time is before dawn.

Change what funding

Dublin don't have an outsize number of Games Promotion Officers compared to other counties

Funding GPOs is the very definition of investing in the grass roots and communities

The grass roots in Dublin seems to be irrelevant to most country people, they would rather see clubs in Dublin die

That's a horribly sneering attitude

Dublin has around 90 clubs, it's not a massive amount relatively speaking

Stop these ridiculous lies, you are like the Brexiteers. You  are only making fools of yourselves with this nonsense.

Let me repeat again.

People do want to invest in grass roots in Dublin, although they want similar investment in Drogheda, Derry etc.
People do not want that money to be  used to create monster club and  county teams that distort national competitions.

Dublin should have more than 90 clubs, divided into several counties.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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Re: Dublin v Cork 13 July 2019
« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2019, 07:54:46 PM »
The only thing that will stop the GAA pumping money into Dublin is a collapse in attendances.
They can’t fund the project without gate receipts. Unfortunately for them the Super 8 is as lopsided as everything else. Sport without competition is a turn off for fans. RTÉ can’t charge the same ad rates for matches people won’t watch.

« Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. »

 Flannery O’Connor

Yes, this is why I want Dublin to win and win and win. Attendances will die. Money will dry up and Headquarters will have no choice but to change the funding.

Cork beating Dublin would have been a disaster yesterday.

The darkest time is before dawn.

Change what funding

Dublin don't have an outsize number of Games Promotion Officers compared to other counties

Funding GPOs is the very definition of investing in the grass roots and communities

The grass roots in Dublin seems to be irrelevant to most country people, they would rather see clubs in Dublin die

That's a horribly sneering attitude

Dublin has around 90 clubs, it's not a massive amount relatively speaking

Kilmacud Crokes have Adult teams in Division 1, 2, 5, 7, 8 and 10. That's 6 adult teams. Vincents have 4 Adult teams in Divisions 1,3,6 and 9.  So when you talk of 90 clubs, these clubs are not like Junior Clubs in Mayo, Kerry, Galway or Donegal. Most of them are monsters.
Most arent actually. There are far more junior clubs than superclubs. And Kilmacud until recently had the majority of a county to themselves.