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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2019, 10:56:34 AM »
Tonight Sean Cavanagh and Malachy O'Rourke on the Sunday game tipped Mayo to win in Killarney and to join Donegal in the semi final. Pat Spillane couldn't bring himself to do likewise using if they were to win next Sunday but knows full well that Kerry are poor in defence,midfield and are a poor physical match for Mayo.

I dunno. Mayo invite everybody to dance with them. Everybody knows that.

Like last few weeks they probably made Down and Armagh feel better than they have in years. Galway persisted in Limerick even when 8 points down because they knew they would get some sympathy. If they were 8 down to Tyrone. Dublin, Donegal or Kerry, they would have gone home for their tea.

Mayo would have given Clare and Laois the time of their lives as well. That's what we do. We would have let Cork have a run on us and they would have finished us.

Now we are in Super8s, anything can happen.
We've lost a few players and we've found a few. The 'miles on the clock' theory is bullshit of course.
It's about form now and making good decisions. At least Horan put out his most practical set up I remember in Limerick. If he did that v Roscommon this odyssey could have been avoided. On the other hand .........

We ve had a few forwards come along that if they were from some other counties that I wont mention, would be nadwek over.

Mayo have 3 wins in a row under their belts now, doesn't matter how they were achieved as winning them was the main thing and that will be the same down in Killarney next Sunday. Do you think anyone will care in the Mayo camp if they are leading that game by 10 points with 5 minutes to go and only win by 1 point?

Or lose by 1 point!

That's the thing. Mayo had a hurling lead v Galway but still nervy. Vaughan's point should have been a goal and game closed out for an 8 point win but we give them oxygen.
We do not do the simple housekeeping well.
I'm long enough around to know what we are like and while it's mad it's the reason I will be in Killarney next weekend, with the help of God. More drama. More madness.

Dare say they rode their luck even more in 2017, the qualifiers are about getting through
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2019, 10:57:28 AM »
Very pleased to have reached the last eight , satisfactory season no matter what happens now . Youd imagine the amount of games will take its toll now and Kerry will expose that in the second half of this game with a young pacey forward unit and big David Moran dominating the middle . Kerry by seven plus .

What better way to prepare than by playing matches
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2019, 12:21:16 PM »
Another “new” poster.
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As for the match forget about about leagues etc .
 the bright side for mayo is Kerry Championship form has been far from spectacular so far .
maybe they are on a Slow build. this is very much the easier of the 2 group so some on is going to be very pissed off at not making it through . les hope its Donegal 
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2019, 04:33:53 PM »
Mayo and Kerry have played each other twice this year - Kerry 0-11 Mayo 1-10 in Tralee and Kerry 2-10 Mayo 3-11 in the league final.

Lots of question marks on both sides, I don't think there's a whole lot between the two teams currently but I think it will come down to who turns up on the day.



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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2019, 04:57:39 PM »
Mayo and Kerry have played each other twice this year - Kerry 0-11 Mayo 1-10 in Tralee and Kerry 2-10 Mayo 3-11 in the league final.

Lots of question marks on both sides, I don't think there's a whole lot between the two teams currently but I think it will come down to who turns up on the day.

Id imagine both teams will turn up on the day. It would be stupid not to, after all the training theyve done.

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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2019, 06:34:35 PM »
I see paddy power has it 8/15 for Kerry, 15/8 Mayo or Kerry to win by 2 going by the handicap betting and I think that's about right. Mayo lost at home to Roscommon and Kerry beat Cork away and Cork and Roscommon are about the same. Also Kerry haven't lost a championship game at home since 1995.

That’s really quite disparaging towards the Rossies

Bookies have it Evens for Cork and Evens for Roscommon in their mstch

If the game was played in Hyde Park or Croke Park Roscommon would be the bookies favourties.  Cork will be playing in Div 3 next spring a level the rossies haven't played in since 2014.


If this game was being played anywhere but Killarney I would say Mayo without a shadow of a doubt.
The fact it’s in Killarney gives Kerry a far better chance I think.
I don't know if Kerry are that good
they didn't go past the last 8 last year

Most of Kerry's best players are young and inexperienced and in time they will be a good team. On Sunday they are up against a seasoned and experienced Mayo outfit who will have no fear of traveling to Killarney. I'm expecting Mayo to reach the last 4 regardless of the outcome of this match and whoever win the Croke Park match between Kerry and Donegal will likely join Mayo in the semi finals.

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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2019, 08:31:15 PM »
Mayo bullied Kerry in the league final. Physically, they seemed bigger, and stronger in the tackle. Not sure how Kerry will have improved on that front. Mayo totally controlled midfield that day too. Kerry will have David Moran back this time though, and Aidan O'Shea didn't look 100% to me against Galway, so could be a battle there. Barry is not a top level midfielder to my mind. Vaughan could contain him.

If Kerry can get the ball into Clifford often and cleanly though, I think he'll give that Mayo full back line a torrid time. Harrison struggled to hold him in the league final and could be a long afternoon for him if any sort of good ball goes into Clifford.

League final was a baptism of fire for young Sean O'Se. I expect he'll have learned from it.

Kerry have great forward options that could do serious damage, but defence is a shambles though. No natural defenders on that team. Wonder will Mayo introduce Andy Moran just to give Shane Enright a few flashbacks to 2017?

Based on recent meetings, I'd say Mayo to win. But this Mayo team are a peculiar bunch. As I said in the Galway v Mayo thread, they seem to enjoy chaos and don't seem satisfied unless they're involved in some kind of battle. So as always, it'll probably end up being a very close run thing. If they can contain Clifford and control the middle, I think Mayo will win. If David Moran lords it for Kerry in the middle and lets the ball into the forwards, Kerry FF line could run riot..

I hope he receives better protection from referee and linesmen. Couldn't buy a free in league final.

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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2019, 08:32:43 PM »
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2019, 08:40:23 PM »
Mayo bullied Kerry in the league final. Physically, they seemed bigger, and stronger in the tackle. Not sure how Kerry will have improved on that front. Mayo totally controlled midfield that day too. Kerry will have David Moran back this time though, and Aidan O'Shea didn't look 100% to me against Galway, so could be a battle there. Barry is not a top level midfielder to my mind. Vaughan could contain him.

If Kerry can get the ball into Clifford often and cleanly though, I think he'll give that Mayo full back line a torrid time. Harrison struggled to hold him in the league final and could be a long afternoon for him if any sort of good ball goes into Clifford.

League final was a baptism of fire for young Sean O'Se. I expect he'll have learned from it.

Kerry have great forward options that could do serious damage, but defence is a shambles though. No natural defenders on that team. Wonder will Mayo introduce Andy Moran just to give Shane Enright a few flashbacks to 2017?

Based on recent meetings, I'd say Mayo to win. But this Mayo team are a peculiar bunch. As I said in the Galway v Mayo thread, they seem to enjoy chaos and don't seem satisfied unless they're involved in some kind of battle. So as always, it'll probably end up being a very close run thing. If they can contain Clifford and control the middle, I think Mayo will win. If David Moran lords it for Kerry in the middle and lets the ball into the forwards, Kerry FF line could run riot..

I hope he receives better protection from referee and linesmen. Couldn't buy a free in league final.

People keep saying this. I don't see what there was to complain about honestly. SOS was outfoxed that day. He is young and learned the hard way. He'll improve from it.

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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2019, 10:12:42 PM »
This has the feeling of knockout game for Mayo as far as Im concerned
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2019, 10:21:52 PM »
This has the feeling of knockout game for Mayo as far as Im concerned

I think it is really. I fancy Donegal to beat at least one of these and Meath, both Kerry and Mayo to beat Meath so the loser of this is really up against it.

Could easily see 3 teams on 4 points here with Meath having zero.

Tie-breaker

If only two teams are level on group points -

The team that won the head-to-head match is ranked first
If this game was a draw, score difference (total scored minus total conceded in all group games) is used to rank the teams
If score difference is identical, total scored is used to rank the teams
If still identical, a play-off is required
If three or more teams are level on group points, score difference is used to rank the teams.

That's a very likely scenario. Kerry have the advantage there because they're more able to run up a score I think. Donegal and Mayo would be very tight in that scenario.

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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2019, 10:28:48 PM »
This has the feeling of knockout game for Mayo as far as Im concerned

I think it is really. I fancy Donegal to beat at least one of these and Meath, both Kerry and Mayo to beat Meath so the loser of this is really up against it.

Could easily see 3 teams on 4 points here with Meath having zero.

Tie-breaker

If only two teams are level on group points -

The team that won the head-to-head match is ranked first
If this game was a draw, score difference (total scored minus total conceded in all group games) is used to rank the teams
If score difference is identical, total scored is used to rank the teams
If still identical, a play-off is required
If three or more teams are level on group points, score difference is used to rank the teams.

That's a very likely scenario. Kerry have the advantage there because they're more able to run up a score I think. Donegal and Mayo would be very tight in that scenario.

I think it may favour Mayo that they play meath in croke park
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2019, 10:37:02 PM »
Hadn't considered that in fairness.

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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2019, 10:46:41 PM »
Hadn't considered that in fairness.

Now theres another side to that. Not to overlook Meath by any stretch of the imagination, but from a pure hypothetical POV, should Mayo build something like a ten point lead against Meath they cant afford to let that slip back to three or four. Its fine in a straight knockout but could be detrimental in super 8.
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Re: Kerry v Mayo - Super 8s Round 1
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2019, 11:26:03 PM »
This has the feeling of knockout game for Mayo as far as I’m concerned

Gone be the days when the last eight games was knockout.  For what it worth Kerry didn't recovered from their round 1 defeat that year the same will likely happen to them if they lose this game.