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irish345

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Players going for points when they need a goal
« on: July 16, 2019, 10:57:42 PM »
why does this happen a lot team down 3 points with  a minute  to go and they go for a point

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2019, 11:08:59 PM »
Never understood this. Especially these days with teams so good at keeping possession meaning you likely wonít get another chance st goal. I still canít brlieve COC didnít work it in for a goal in 2013.

When you have a free nearer goals, and you have the time and space to work something, do it.
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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2019, 08:10:47 AM »
Also teams going for points when down by so much only goals will do e.g. Mayo going for points last Sunday at the end when they needed goals

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2019, 11:39:24 AM »
If there is 4 points in it with minutes to go you tap over your points when you can, if the goal opp comes along then take it but its very difficult to get/work a goal when there are 29 players hanging around the 21 yard line!
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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2019, 12:39:27 PM »
Its sometimes a little frustrating when teams panic and go for goals when 3 points down with 3 or 4 mins to go. Often the goal just isn't on and players blast it wide or into a crowd of defenders. Quite often with injury time and the opposition hanging on, it is quite feasible that 3 point scoring opportunities will present themselves if you can hold your nerve. Many times I've seen teams waste numerous goal scoring opportunities when easy points where on. Also if the opposition know you are blindly going to work a goal they will sit in. If you have picked off two easy points and it is now a one point game, they may be forced out and a goal chance may present itself. Ultimately though, I suppose its all down to the time left and communicating with the ref.
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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2019, 01:20:32 PM »
If there is 4 points in it with minutes to go you tap over your points when you can, if the goal opp comes along then take it but its very difficult to get/work a goal when there are 29 players hanging around the 21 yard line!

Aye but in COCís case, even if the ref has played another 30-40 seconds, Dublin would have held onto the ball for that time. Fire it in, anything can happen. Deflection, , bounces off someone head, two opponents going for same ball and clatter each other, your player gets hauled down for a pen...

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2019, 08:50:41 PM »
Whoís watching the u-20 Leinster hurling???????
Wexford are Three points down. 2 1/2 minutes into injury time of 5. 21 yard free with 5 men in line and he taps it over!!! Wtf!!


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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2019, 09:46:53 PM »
Dublin minors did the same in the 2011 final vs. Tipp.  I forget who took the free, but a point was no use, with the game just about over.

 I got over it in about two hours time, in fairness.

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2019, 03:38:26 PM »
It's annoying but not half as annoying as players going all out for goals when there's still plenty of time to get points. Teams defending a  point lead with like 5 minutes left will tend to drop back a bit to protect against goal chances so why not use that to get into point range a bit easier and make some in roads. Often times at the end of a game it'll be easier to pick up 3/4 points against a packed defense than to gt a goal.

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2019, 03:48:25 PM »
It's something I've remarked on over the past 5 or 6 years who the Dubs often go for goals, even when it's not on.
Mannion, Jack McCaffery, McManaman and recently Costello often get to the 21 and rather than tap it over will take their man on and go for the jugular. Tyrone often go for points when I think they could be much more ruthless. Since Mugsy went we don't have anyone like that any more. Cork's Brian Hurley loves going for it. Hopefully not this weekend

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2019, 03:54:13 PM »
If it's on it's on and you should go for it, regardless of what time in the game it is. But if it's not on then you're really only wasting possession by trying to force it.

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2019, 05:18:23 PM »
It's something I've remarked on over the past 5 or 6 years who the Dubs often go for goals, even when it's not on.
Mannion, Jack McCaffery, McManaman and recently Costello often get to the 21 and rather than tap it over will take their man on and go for the jugular. Tyrone often go for points when I think they could be much more ruthless. Since Mugsy went we don't have anyone like that any more. Cork's Brian Hurley loves going for it. Hopefully not this weekend

Cavanaghís trade mark hand pass point used to infuriate me at times.
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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2019, 11:00:17 AM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/jackie-tyrrell-kilkenny-s-leaders-delivered-right-on-cue-1.3960660

But it isnít just a matter of upping the intensity. Everybody tries to do that. Itís recognising the moment and using every little bit of good play as a springboard to another. Itís switching on for the puck-out after youíve scored a point, knowing that itís a chance to get two for the price of one.
A goal counts for more in that period. A goal in the first half is great but thereís still time to reset and claw back the lead. A goal soon after half-time is different. It does more psychological damage to the opposition. It gives your own team a boost bigger than the three points that go on the scoreboard.

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Re: Players going for points when they need a goal
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2019, 11:28:51 AM »
It's something I've remarked on over the past 5 or 6 years who the Dubs often go for goals, even when it's not on.
Mannion, Jack McCaffery, McManaman and recently Costello often get to the 21 and rather than tap it over will take their man on and go for the jugular. Tyrone often go for points when I think they could be much more ruthless. Since Mugsy went we don't have anyone like that any more. Cork's Brian Hurley loves going for it. Hopefully not this weekend

Cavanaghís trade mark hand pass point used to infuriate me at times.

When I saw this thread he was the first who came into my head. He could have been 5 yards out and still would have fisted over.
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