2019 All Ireland Football Qualifiers

Started by Don Draper, June 11, 2019, 02:38:45 PM

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Tony

I can't see Colm Begley starting but I can see him coming on. It's not really Sugrue's style to start someone who's been out injured and just back in contention.

thegreeenandgold

Seriously "Underdogs" this game is 50/50, same lads would be saying it's 50/50 against Roscommon when they would be easy favs. Cork are shambolic and okay there may be enough talent to trouble Laois, but no way is this anything but 50/50.  In the same way as Offaly, Cork will try to hit Laois in the first half but I can't see them staying with us.  We are just in a better place.  On the minus side I would think we will struggle in Super 8's and I genuinely can't make up mind is this a good thing long term or a bad thing ala Kildare this season.

Nameless

Quote from: thegreeenandgold on July 05, 2019, 05:30:44 PM
Seriously "Underdogs" this game is 50/50, same lads would be saying it's 50/50 against Roscommon when they would be easy favs. Cork are shambolic and okay there may be enough talent to trouble Laois, but no way is this anything but 50/50.  In the same way as Offaly, Cork will try to hit Laois in the first half but I can't see them staying with us.  We are just in a better place.  On the minus side I would think we will struggle in Super 8's and I genuinely can't make up mind is this a good thing long term or a bad thing ala Kildare this season.

How much have you put on at 2/1? Great odds on Laois if you believe what you posted.

I think we'll find it tough but we can beat Cork. It will take a day where we actually take a high percentage of our chances and especially goals. We'll have to tighten up at the back and give a bit more protection, I'm sure there's a plan for this. Whatever happens, I hope a big crowd goes down to support them. They're giving their all and they deserve our backing.

thegreeenandgold

Went 5/2 on betfair for small but will go again at 2/1 same as the 15/8 in Derry

Cork Derry essentially two Div 3 teams, Cork prob worse on the way down.

Tony

Quote from: thegreeenandgold on July 05, 2019, 06:38:10 PM
Went 5/2 on betfair for small but will go again at 2/1 same as the 15/8 in Derry

Cork Derry essentially two Div 3 teams, Cork prob worse on the way down.
I seriously doubt you've kept a close eye on Cork this season. Yes, they went down but they were playing good football come end of League, especially with the good win against Armagh (who are a serious team these days) and continued that into championship form. You're dismissing them like they're a Louth or Offaly type team. We wont fear them but they are clear favourites.

thegreeenandgold

#200
No better than Offaly or Louth who you would expect Laois to be 1/3 or 1/4.  I'm saying this Laois team has to be 50/50 makes them evens to win this.

MasterJ

I don't know how it is 50/50 as Laois winning would be a huge shock!

Tony

#202
19/20 neutrals would predict Cork. That's just the reality of the situation. So you can live in deluded world if you like but facts are facts. It's clear that Cork are not HOT favourites but they're certainly WARM favourites for this one. That's the consensus between all the expert journalists and any neutral opinion I've seen.

thegreeenandgold

#203
Bookies expect Laois to win 1 in 3.5 times, I think its 1 in 2.  Whatever it is a Laois win would not be a huge shock,  Laois beating Dublin in hurling on Sunday would be a huge shock. I am not saying Cork can't beat Laois but teams are on a par, saying different is not true.

Don Draper


ILikeStrawberryJam

Like your confidence Don.
Id be a bit worried about corks pace though.
Well need to put up a big xcore to beat them

Tony

I love the confidence, I just dislike one or two posters describing Cork as "shambolic" and a poor team etc. That talk is just stupid and ignorant.

We wont fear them and we'll give our all. Let the best team win. Laois abu

merman

John Sugrue is some man.
Great to see such confidence in going to tackle Cork in the last 12 of an All-Ireland.
Some turnaround in 2 years!

Sugrue and Eddie Brennan (like Chedder before him) are laying foundations that we as a County must accept as baseline requirements.
The quality of player we have available will peak and trough across the years but we must get behind people of substance who demand the best from our county panelists.

Best of luck to the lads today.

BallyroanAbu

Tony quit this racket,  Laois have worked hard for the past couple of years. Cork are poor at the moment. This is Sugrue's big chance, until now we have beaten no one.  Cork are in their worst situation in years.  If we can't beat them now we never will, if we get hammered here we have no business at top tier level in football.  UP Laois buy in Tony and stop looking for excuses.  Laois Win

Brandon

Quote from: redsetanta on July 04, 2019, 10:53:49 PM
So are you kicking football in Laois? Welcome by the way!
yes I am and thanks